Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 
jonb
1797 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 545

Trusted

  #2451581 31-Mar-2020 14:50
Send private message

My big multi-national employer is also going down this route.



NumPy
132 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 60
Inactive user


  #2451606 31-Mar-2020 15:27
Send private message

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.


networkn
Networkn
32884 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 15483

ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2451622 31-Mar-2020 16:05
Send private message

NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

I applaud your attitude. 

 

 




MikeAqua
8036 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3827


  #2451631 31-Mar-2020 16:24
Send private message

As an example we do this every xmas when we shut down the business for essential maintenance.  You can only do it once every 12 months.

 

In a forced shutdown like the present circumstance forced leave taking means: -

 

- Workers get paid

 

- Employers are able reduce leave liabilities

 

- When business resumes workers will be available, not on leave, speeding recovery

 

 

 

 





Mike


minimoke
750 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 132


  #2451659 31-Mar-2020 16:40
Send private message

NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

If your employer has a 30% drop in revenue (plus other conditions) then you could get $585 a week.


NumPy
132 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 60
Inactive user


  #2451668 31-Mar-2020 16:44
Send private message

minimoke:

 

NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

If your employer has a 30% drop in revenue (plus other conditions) then you could get $585 a week.

 

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.


HP

 
 
 
 

Shop now for HP laptops and other devices (affiliate link).
antonknee
1133 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1145


  #2451975 1-Apr-2020 09:10
Send private message

NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?


BlinkyBill
1443 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1100
Inactive user


  #2452014 1-Apr-2020 09:41
Send private message

antonknee:

 

NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?

 

 

I think if you are paid out of the US, this is not a multi-national. The pay arrangements of the paying jurisdiction, the US in this case, would apply. As far as income tax is concerned there is a reciprocal arrangement between the US and NZ.


NumPy
132 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 60
Inactive user


  #2452022 1-Apr-2020 09:59
Send private message

antonknee:

 

NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?

 

 

We paid in $NZD, and pay into Kiwisaver, PAYE etc.. I'm a permanent employee.

 

For comparisons sake, we probably no different to other global companies which do software development in NZ (IBM, Google, Amazon, Alcatel-Lucent), except we have no clients in NZ.


BlinkyBill
1443 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1100
Inactive user


  #2452102 1-Apr-2020 11:01
Send private message

NumPy:

 

We paid in $NZD, and pay into Kiwisaver, PAYE etc.. I'm a permanent employee.

 

For comparisons sake, we probably no different to other global companies which do software development in NZ (IBM, Google, Amazon, Alcatel-Lucent), except we have no clients in NZ.

 



 

All of those companies have NZ entities and pay their employee’s in NZ. They are multi-nationals, the definition of which is ‘owns a local legal entity conducting their business affairs’. 

 

I think you probably work for a US business that has employees located in foreign countries. Which is different.


antonknee
1133 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1145


  #2452193 1-Apr-2020 11:45
Send private message

Having thought about this, a bit I believe fundametnally it would depend on who the employer is. Ie legally - if there is an NZ entity that is the employer, or if you are employed directly by a US entity that has no NZ registration (company number or an NZBN for example). The US company may also be using a GEO or PEO (global employer organisation) who is operating here and is actually the employer of note. Would probably need to check your employment agreement to be sure.

 

There is a concept of remote payroll but I believe (although well out of my area of expertise) that this still requires an NZ registration and IRD number etc.

 

Certainly if there is an NZ entity that employs you, and they have a 30% decline in revenue or expected revenue then they should be eligible for the subsidy.

 


Edited to add that it may even be worthwile @NumPy contacting MSD to see if they can suggest what may be applicable - although they will likely need to know who the employer of note is and some more details around that side of it.


1 | 2 
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic








Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.