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#3095405 27-Jun-2023 13:20

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My Brother-n-law, who has terminal lung cancer and is winding up his affairs, has 5 40Ltr plastic storage boxes just full of stamp albums collected over 60 years. Recently had them valued by the Waikato philatelist rep NZ. ZERO value now even though he has spent thousands on them and he does have some rare ones,

The Waikato philatelist rep for which company?

Was going to ask that as well, a reputable valuer or one of those shysters who come around offering to buy estate jewellery for $5 and you'll be lucky you're getting that much for it?

Edited to add: I referred to them as shysters because technically ripping off vulnerable old people isn't illegal so referring to them as crooks is figuratively but not literally accurate.

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#3095410 27-Jun-2023 13:47

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FineWine: ... Recently had them valued by the Waikato philatelist rep NZ. ...
The Waikato philatelist rep for which company?

Ditto

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#3095416 27-Jun-2023 14:13

tdgeek:

Eitsop:

I see this today https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132421336/nz-post-announces-mass-staff-layoffs

The mail business really suffered when they moved to 3 day a week delivery.. it became unreliable to get information to customers..

And it sped up the dramatic adoption of digital emails etc

I see it the other way

Mail business suffered when email took hold, so the 3 day week etc are just NZ Post's response to a fading market, as is today's news

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

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#3095420 27-Jun-2023 14:18

Eitsop:

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

Possibly but then they compete with couriers? End of the day its a transition from one tech to another tech. The physical post that's left will probably get very expensive as they lose the economies of scale as mail reduces. That will push more to email, cycle continues

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#3095421 27-Jun-2023 14:27

Will forever stamps continue to be for ever?

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#3095426 27-Jun-2023 14:42

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Will forever stamps continue to be for ever?

I hope so, they have been the best investment return I've ever made :)

We bought a bunch of kiwistamp 100 boxes for our wedding invites in 2010, we only ever used 1/2 of them....

The value has gone from 50c/stamp then to now $2/stamp from 1 July, That's over 11% per year for 12 years, )

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#3095427 27-Jun-2023 14:42

tdgeek:

Eitsop:

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

Possibly but then they compete with couriers? End of the day its a transition from one tech to another tech. The physical post that's left will probably get very expensive as they lose the economies of scale as mail reduces. That will push more to email, cycle continues

yes was inevitable but they could have slowed decline..

Also govt shouldn't have deregulated, as there was never enough of a declining market to share

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#3095428 27-Jun-2023 14:54

Eitsop:

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

They already do, and since the buggies dont go down driveways I have things left at the side of the road in the old milk part of the mailbox that are small, so I have to have a PO Box for all the aliexpress tat to get delivered to.

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#3095429 27-Jun-2023 14:57

wellygary:

Rikkitic:

Will forever stamps continue to be for ever?

I hope so, they have been the best investment return I've ever made :)

We bought a bunch of kiwistamp 100 boxes for our wedding invites in 2010, we only ever used 1/2 of them....

The value has gone from 50c/stamp then to now $2/stamp from 1 July, That's over 11% per year for 12 years, )

On the very last day the very last letter is accepted for delivery, I will use my very last Kiwistamp to cover the postage of $150 to send myself a postcard!

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#3095435 27-Jun-2023 15:23

richms:

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Every single time we generate a courier label for Pace or NZPost, they send us a paper invoice. Last week, got 15 paper invoices, individual envelopes, all arrived at the exact same time. That's probably 200 million of the letters alone...

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#3095490 27-Jun-2023 15:41

CamH:

Every single time we generate a courier label for Pace or NZPost, they send us a paper invoice. Last week, got 15 paper invoices, individual envelopes, all arrived at the exact same time. That's probably 200 million of the letters alone...

Why don't you switch your account to electronic invoicing, then you won't get any letters at all? I haven't received anything from NZ Post on paper for well over 5 years.

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#3095493 27-Jun-2023 16:00

richms:
Eitsop:

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

They already do, and since the buggies dont go down driveways I have things left at the side of the road in the old milk part of the mailbox that are small, so I have to have a PO Box for all the aliexpress tat to get delivered to.

Yes but they should have started doing small tracked courier parcels instead of going to 3 day delivery.

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#3095496 27-Jun-2023 16:11

timmmay: IRD seems to mail things out occasionally. My six year old got a pointless tax return from them today.

My kids both got 5c refunds this week:)

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#3095513 27-Jun-2023 17:09

Eitsop:

The mail network should have allowed posties to diversify, and deliver small tracked parcels. And getting couriers to concentrate on items that posties couldn't carry.

They already do, if we order a computer and a stick of RAM, the RAM gets delivered by the postie and a few days later the courier will deliver the computer.

NZ post delivers tracked parcels every day and have done forever.

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#3095527 27-Jun-2023 17:47

Eitsop:

yes was inevitable but they could have slowed decline..

Also govt shouldn't have deregulated, as there was never enough of a declining market to share

How can you slow the decline when email exists?? Its like comparing a bus trip to the Star Trek Transporter

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