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#306085 27-Jun-2023 09:57

I see this today https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132421336/nz-post-announces-mass-staff-layoffs

The mail business really suffered when they moved to 3 day a week delivery.. it became unreliable to get information to customers..

And it sped up the dramatic adoption of digital emails etc

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#3095272 27-Jun-2023 10:10

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

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#3095276 27-Jun-2023 10:18

richms:

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Parking/Speeding Fines, court and Jury summons, Electoral registration, voting papers, car registration...

There is still a bunch of offiicaldom that is still paper based...

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#3095277 27-Jun-2023 10:19

richms:

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Certain things must be posted, I assume.

As has been said, a lot of things are posted by default.

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#3095278 27-Jun-2023 10:21

The prices and time delays increases, so patronage shrinks, so profits decrease, so prices and time delays increase, so patronage shrinks and profits decrease, so on and so on.

Mail and post delivery shouldn't exist to make huge profits in my opinion.

This will impact things like Hospitals organizing appointment times, my wife gets regular appointment letters from Chch hospital that take weeks to arrive, sometimes leaving a mere day or two notice of an appointment as it is.

Some medicine also rely on the outdate method of needing a paper script sent by post before the medication can be issued, forcing the patient to live without.

And many companies still send invoices via mail which again will cause delays in payment.

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#3095281 27-Jun-2023 10:27

richms:

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Can't email drugs and counterfeit money last time I checked.

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#3095334 27-Jun-2023 10:50

I have noticed that hospital appointment letters take an extra week or so to arrive and some other mail is similar. But I also get other mail items very quickly.

I have concluded that Hospital mail gets held up at the hospital in their internal systems.

Latest item, a replacement DL due to Latitude kerfuffle arrived in 2 days.

Oh, and I have the benefit of a Rural 5 day delivery week, but that can add its own delay as sorters send the mail to wrong depots.

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#3095340 27-Jun-2023 11:02

Is Post doing your hospital letters? In Wellington they arrived via DX mail, motorcycle delivery at random times.

If Post are offloading jobs to contractors expect that to be short term as the contractors don't seem to stick around. Next step will be reduced service.

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#3095346 27-Jun-2023 11:09

Bung: Is Post doing your hospital letters? In Wellington they arrived via DX mail, motorcycle delivery at random times.

If Post are offloading jobs to contractors expect that to be short term as the contractors don't seem to stick around. Next step will be reduced service.

Good point! Sorry, brain fade. Definitely DX but always arrive via RD so assume that handover must be the delay.

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#3095349 27-Jun-2023 11:15

IRD seems to mail things out occasionally. My six year old got a pointless tax return from them today.

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#3095357 27-Jun-2023 11:24

My Brother-n-law, who has terminal lung cancer and is winding up his affairs, has 5 40Ltr plastic storage boxes just full of stamp albums collected over 60 years. Recently had them valued by the Waikato philatelist rep NZ. ZERO value now even though he has spent thousands on them and he does have some rare ones, particularly the ones for the mail sea planes who delivered to the small Micronesia and Polynesia islands in the days of flying boats and from the African coastal countries of the 50's & 60's which he collected as a cargo/passenger ship seaman doing that route.

However. These are going to his son who is in his 50's and they will be handed down from there and the rep said that then they will start to be worth money. So we are looking at around 75 to 100 years before this huge collection will have a return value.

Very sad really.

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#3095368 27-Jun-2023 11:40

timmmay: IRD seems to mail things out occasionally. My six year old got a pointless tax return from them today.

If your six year old had an email address on their myIR file, they (well, you actually, I guess 😉) would get an email telling them/you that there was an electronic letter waiting for them.

I haven't received an actual letter from IRD in ages

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#3095376 27-Jun-2023 11:50

richms:
Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Junk from Wish, Aliexpress (don't you personally account for at least 50 million of those?), and Trademe.

Which makes you wonder, given how dire their processing and delivery of packages already is, how bad it's going to become in the future. Will we end up like the US where to send anything with a reasonable guarantee of service you need to use Fedex or DHL or UPS? In NZ's case there's... uhh... there's... gawd, we're in trouble now.

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#3095379 27-Jun-2023 11:57

Eitsop:

I see this today https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132421336/nz-post-announces-mass-staff-layoffs

The mail business really suffered when they moved to 3 day a week delivery.. it became unreliable to get information to customers..

And it sped up the dramatic adoption of digital emails etc

I see it the other way

Mail business suffered when email took hold, so the 3 day week etc are just NZ Post's response to a fading market, as is today's news

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#3095383 27-Jun-2023 12:08

neb:
richms:

Says there are still 220 million things mailed each year. TBH that seems really high. What is all this stuff that people are posting? Surely not that many replacement credit cards and stuff going around the place?

Junk from Wish, Aliexpress (don't you personally account for at least 50 million of those?), and Trademe.

I was assuming that they were not including parcels in that amount. It would be low if it included parcels.

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#3095403 27-Jun-2023 13:15

FineWine:
My Brother-n-law, who has terminal lung cancer and is winding up his affairs, has 5 40Ltr plastic storage boxes just full of stamp albums collected over 60 years. Recently had them valued by the Waikato philatelist rep NZ. ZERO value now even though he has spent thousands on them and he does have some rare ones,

The Waikato philatelist rep for which company?

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