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Goosey

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#3322586 20-Dec-2024 08:55

Ahh, you learn to live with fortnightly rubbish collection and fortnightly recycling collection.

bonus is that here in chch the organics is weekly.

chch has I think 15-18 years with this regime and it works. Again, you learn to use the organics for food and garden and everything else is the rubbish bin or recycling. You somtimes have to organise yourself around heavy weeks and potentially have a wee box to collect odd bits so you can manage any heavy weeks and then transfer those odd bits to the light weeks.

Much better system than rubbish bags and fortnightly isn’t an issue.

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#3322588 20-Dec-2024 09:02

In Auckland. For random reasons we have ended up with two red and two blue top bins. One red bin goes out every week and one blue bin goes out every two weeks. Both are between 3/4 and 4/4 full. Occasionally we put all four bins out and they are always emptied.

Never paid extra for this and I have zero guilt over it. We pay an absolute fortune in rates and in return the council does less and less for us and annoys us more and more every year. Mayor Brown is slowly battling the giant bureaucracy though - there is hope.

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#3322599 20-Dec-2024 09:17

johno1234:

In Auckland. For random reasons we have ended up with two red and two blue top bins. One red bin goes out every week and one blue bin goes out every two weeks. Both are between 3/4 and 4/4 full. Occasionally we put all four bins out and they are always emptied.

Never paid extra for this and I have zero guilt over it. We pay an absolute fortune in rates and in return the council does less and less for us and annoys us more and more every year. Mayor Brown is slowly battling the giant bureaucracy though - there is hope.

well you better check to see if they have been microchip tagged…potentially Auckland council hasn’t rolled that one out yet.

in Christchurch, all bins have a plastic microchip unit about the size of a small child’s fist (it’s attached to the underside of the top “lip”.

it’s there to track frequency of pick up as well as other metrics relating to weight, time and date of pick up. (Reader is on the trucks). In good time, if things with the council finances take a turn for the worse with the ever increasing issue with central government spending less and causing councils to spend more….we might see a user pays instead of a targeted rate.

johno1234

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#3322601 20-Dec-2024 09:22

Goosey:

johno1234:

In Auckland. For random reasons we have ended up with two red and two blue top bins. One red bin goes out every week and one blue bin goes out every two weeks. Both are between 3/4 and 4/4 full. Occasionally we put all four bins out and they are always emptied.

Never paid extra for this and I have zero guilt over it. We pay an absolute fortune in rates and in return the council does less and less for us and annoys us more and more every year. Mayor Brown is slowly battling the giant bureaucracy though - there is hope.

well you better check to see if they have been microchip tagged…potentially Auckland council hasn’t rolled that one out yet.

in Christchurch, all bins have a plastic microchip unit about the size of a small child’s fist (it’s attached to the underside of the top “lip”.

it’s there to track frequency of pick up as well as other metrics relating to weight, time and date of pick up. (Reader is on the trucks). In good time, if things with the council finances take a turn for the worse with the ever increasing issue with central government spending less and causing councils to spend more….we might see a user pays instead of a targeted rate.

Not in Auckland. At least not yet. I'm all for user pays though - as long as all users pay.

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#3322748 20-Dec-2024 14:12

Dynamic:

Econowaste have a pay-per-collect options you could consider for the future, and cancel your Auckland Council service alltogether (at the appropriate time)

We used to have that here but they (where "they" could be either Econowaste or the council) shut down the service a while back to ensure there was no alternative but the council collection. Got rid of quite a bit of concrete in the remaining waste bags before they shut things down.

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#3322750 20-Dec-2024 14:14

mentalinc:

Biggest issue here is tags use to cost circa $80 a year ($4.20 each? every 3 weeks), and now getting the same thing for $175

Same problem here. Since we only put the rubbish out every 1-2 months I've been busy cutting up and filling the bin with all manner of junk in order to use up the remaining tags: A wooden pallet, the broken deck chair from the smile thread, lumps of concrete, ...

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#3322753 20-Dec-2024 14:16

Jase2985: "You may be able to opt out of food scraps, refuse and recycling rates charges, but you will still be charged the waste management base rate."

AFAICT there is no way you can opt out of the food scraps thing in practice. In theory you can, but when you approach the council about it no-one has any idea how you would do that.

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#3322754 20-Dec-2024 14:18

johno1234: Mayor Brown is slowly battling the giant bureaucracy though - there is hope.

He is? Unless I've missed something the only thing he's battled since being elected is his golf handicap.

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#3322930 21-Dec-2024 07:47

You’ve definitely missed something. He’s currently bringing Auckland Transport back into council control for a start. It’s good to have a qualified engineer s mayor. They think about things the right way.

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#3322934 21-Dec-2024 08:33

Like with 3 waters causing problems up and down the country with old infrastructure.
Councils lacking funds to update infrastructure that's 100 years old.

It will probably get a lot worse when Auckland runs out of places to put its rubbish.

Doing all the geotech to find and then prove suitability of possible sites.
Then acquiring them and fighting tooth and nail through planning permissions etc of the site.
Thats very expensive.

Then you have to add that site will likely have costs in transport distance and new roads to support the volume of trucks.
You need to have it somewhere sight unseen and far from many people who may protest.

How long before we reach a point where future dumps are not ready when pressent ones have filled up

We might be in the last 'glory days' of affordable rubbish disposal.

Its just that we don't know it yet

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#3322994 21-Dec-2024 10:11

Got a letter from the Council yesterday; according to their records I now have 2 rubbish bins on this property when I shouldn't, and haven't been paying for one of them. I only have one bin.

What's confusing is the bin that I'm "not paying for" is a 120L bin that I've never had.

Wonder how many other people have incorrect info on their file, as a result of the bin swap over.

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#3323062 21-Dec-2024 19:35

My Neighbor has 2 x 120L bins as a result of the rubbish truck eating his first one. I was on a call in front of my house and watched it happen.

He got a replacement, and three weeks later, another one was dropped off. Only one on the rates.....

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