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#2915926 19-May-2022 12:02

RollyShed:

eracode said, "I didn't realise Luxembourg and Switzerland used to have a coastline." and loydbloke said, "I didn't realise Belgium's coastline had been removed."

They will get a coastline back with global warming.

If lower drown rates is due to lack of coastline, then WSNZ should remove our one to save the nation... logically.

Belgium has only just enough coast for a few people to go for a swim.

I can't find statistics specifically related to seaside drownings, but in 2019 (most recent) there were altogether 54 (fatal) drownings in Belgium according to Statista.com. This compares to 82 drownings in New Zealand according to the WSNZ Drowning Report for that year. Considering the differences in land, population and coastline area, it doesn't look like the amount of seaside is particularly relevant here.

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#2915931 19-May-2022 12:22

Belgium population 11.5 million. Coast line <10% of country boundary. Drowning 54

New Zealand population 5 million. Coastline 100% of country boundary. Drowning 82

For the same drown rate per population as NZ, Belgium = 25

Belgium for the same drown rate per coast line = 540

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#2915939 19-May-2022 13:02

You'd have to factor in riverbanks. Some of the worst drowning rates are central Africa nowhere near a coast.

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#2915961 19-May-2022 13:35

RollyShed:

eracode said, "I didn't realise Luxembourg and Switzerland used to have a coastline."

No - I did not say that at all.

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#2915962 19-May-2022 13:41

I didn't realise Luxembourg and Switzerland used to have a coastline.🤪

You're just not thinking back far enough.

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#2915963 19-May-2022 13:52

Bung: You'd have to factor in riverbanks. Some of the worst drowning rates are central Africa nowhere near a coast.

Yup, and in the early colonial days, drowning was a very common cause of death in NZ. In rivers, not the ocean. And, indeed, it is still not uncommon for trampers or hunters to drown.

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#2915964 19-May-2022 13:53

$5.80 for a medium-hot chocolate at Jamica Blue cafe at the Hospital. Just as well I was near medical professionals as I nearly had a heart attack.

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#2915969 19-May-2022 14:00

eracode: I didn't realise Belgium's coastline had been removed.

Sorry it looks as if I quoted the wrong person on that.

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#2915970 19-May-2022 14:01

You can drown in freshwater too. We have a much nine times the land area of Belgium, and about twice as much of our land area is covered in water.

We also have climate conducive to swimming in natural bodies of water. Belgium ... has a climate conducive to drinking Trappist ale and eating steak and chips in a nice warm bar.

It's also instructive to review the breakdown of NZ drowning data. 2021 Report Provisional, Water Safety New Zealand the most common place to drown is a surf beach, followed by a river.

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#2915975 19-May-2022 14:11

eracode:

RollyShed:

eracode said, "I didn't realise Luxembourg and Switzerland used to have a coastline."

No - I did not say that at all.

Someone bloody well did!!

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#2915976 19-May-2022 14:12

MikeAqua: Belgium ... has a climate conducive to drinking Trappist ale and eating steak and chips in a nice warm bar.

Exactly so why compare NZ with Belgium, which is what WSNZ were doing?

Their river is the Scheldt. The coast is between Bruges and De Panne, about 50 km.

However they have twice the population who don't go and drown themselves.

Note - WSNZ figures being quoted here are 2020-21 where as the figures and "worse than the OECD" were back in 2010 and earlier.

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#2915977 19-May-2022 14:19

networkn: a medium-hot chocolate

So, a warm chocolate then? 😁

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#2915978 19-May-2022 14:20

RollyShed:

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Their river is the Scheldt. The coast is between Bruges and De Panne, about 50 km.

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Way off-topic trivia. I used to be able to see the former two of those (well Knokke rather than Bruges, seeing as Bruges is inland) from my bedroom window when I was a child.

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.