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  #2148016 19-Dec-2018 16:47
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Instead of moaning about it, try to find a way to make it better. Like most people I use my car for shopping. So I have boxes in the boot. I use the shopping cart (without bags) to transfer the shopping to the car, where I load it into the boxes. It isn't rocket science.

 

 

I'm not moaning about needing to bring bags, I'm moaning about them offering to sell you a bag which is much worse for the environment which will likely get thrown right away.

 

 

Just goes to show, for them it's not about the environment, it was just another way to generate revenue.

 

 




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  #2148017 19-Dec-2018 16:49
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Then make sure you don't buy such a bag and at least you won't be making that particular problem worse.

 

 





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  #2148020 19-Dec-2018 16:55
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We have a supply of bags in each of our cars. We have been using these bags for a long time and none are in need of replacement. If something spills in them they are cleaned and they are also cleaned and disinfected on a regular basis. The bag hold more than single use plastic bags, easier to carry and don't dig into your hands and don't tear open. We have been using our own bags for a long time.





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  #2148022 19-Dec-2018 17:00
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Just goes to show, for them it's not about the environment, it was just another way to generate revenue.

 

 

It's about them wanting to look like they are doing something, but without it requiring any effort or expense on their part. Selling us the alternative bags is a nice bonus for them.


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  #2148024 19-Dec-2018 17:03
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We have a supply of bags in each of our cars. We have been using these bags for a long time and none are in need of replacement. If something spills in them they are cleaned and they are also cleaned and disinfected on a regular basis. The bag hold more than single use plastic bags, easier to carry and don't dig into your hands and don't tear open. We have been using our own bags for a long time.

 

 

Are you talking about the 15c plastic ones? In my view these are only purchased when people forget their "proper" re-usable bags, then discarded.

 

A 15c item is treated as a disposable by most people.


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  #2148025 19-Dec-2018 17:04
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Then make sure you don't buy such a bag and at least you won't be making that particular problem worse.

 

 

I don't. But the fact that they are selling them makes a mockery of the whole thing.

 

EDIT: I personally never had a problem with single-use plastic bags, as in my experience they were almost always re-used for other things. But if supermarkets seriously want to reduce plastic use, then actually commit and try to make a real difference.


 
 
 
 

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  #2148028 19-Dec-2018 17:10
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We  have ( I have)  purchased one of those multi use plastic bags when I forgot to take my own bag in with me and it was too much of a mission to take the chair out and back for one bag. I now use the multi use plastic bag to store all teh other material bags in my car.





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  #2148031 19-Dec-2018 17:20
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Rikkitic:

I have boxes in the boot. I use the shopping cart (without bags) to transfer the shopping to the car, where I load it into the boxes.

 

I have the boxes in the boot, but I take them into Pak'n'Save with me. When I get to the checkout, I quickly place them in the trolley ahead, and the checkout operator packs them for me. It's no extra labour for the operator, and it's much quicker for me, important out in the carpark on a cold, wet, winter's night. This practice is far superior to using bags (of any type) IMO. Banana boxes are the best, two occupy a large trolley nicely, and they last for years. They can get a bit heavy sometimes, 20 kg or so, but that's not a problem for me.

 

 

I've been doing this for 20 years or so. I'm stumped as to why other shoppers don't do it. Maybe they think it's cheating on the cheap prices for packing yourself deal somehow.





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  #2148034 19-Dec-2018 17:27
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Then make sure you don't buy such a bag and at least you won't be making that particular problem worse.



I don't. But the fact that they are selling them makes a mockery of the whole thing.


EDIT: I personally never had a problem with single-use plastic bags, as in my experience they were almost always re-used for other things. But if supermarkets seriously want to reduce plastic use, then actually commit and try to make a real difference.



These bags will be ineligible after July.

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  #2148044 19-Dec-2018 18:47
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There are two Countdowns in Johnsonville. One offers cardboard boxes to anyone, the other doesn't. 





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  #2148074 19-Dec-2018 20:34
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Paul1977:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Then make sure you don't buy such a bag and at least you won't be making that particular problem worse.

 

 

I don't. But the fact that they are selling them makes a mockery of the whole thing.

 

EDIT: I personally never had a problem with single-use plastic bags, as in my experience they were almost always re-used for other things. But if supermarkets seriously want to reduce plastic use, then actually commit and try to make a real difference.

 

 

Supermarkets dont want to reduce plastic use, they want to sell groceries at large mark ups. It's 'the public' who want to reduce plastic use and the supermarkets wont do a damned thing until they are, like most businesses, forced to do so.

 

i think many posters are cynical about the new bag ban because saving a few super-thin disposable bags seems minor compared to having almost every single supermarket item in those bags wrapped in plastic.

 

I think you need to be philosophical about that and remind yourself that a journey starts with a step in the right direction. You can also avoid some products which are over wrapped - are you gonna buy a bag of oranges or some loose ones next to them ?

 

Eventually businesses will be forced to do more to reduce the plastic problem THEY cause but not until more people act like they give a sh*t.

 

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  #2148108 19-Dec-2018 21:25
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elpenguino:

 

You get the world you deserve.

 

 

It's worse than that.

 

We (and future generations) are all at risk - not just selfish and lazy slack-jawed apologists for the plastics industry.


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  #2148110 19-Dec-2018 21:31
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This kind of thing (from Pak 'n save) should cause a riot - not an "if you don't like it - vote with your wallet".

 

 

 


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I've always been amused by pre-grated cheese (how hard is it to grate cheese?) but I am totally lost for words with people who are too lazy to remove the outer layer of an onion?!

 

Which Paknsave?


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  #2148244 20-Dec-2018 10:27
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They could have used paper bags for those onions. As for pre grated cheese I get that, it can be impossible for folks with hand disabilities to grate cheese. There are many days that I could not do it. Pealing potatoes, and Onions is also difficult but  there are machines for potatoes I have never seen one for onions.





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