Climate Change Thread

Forums › Off topic › Climate Change Thread

1 | ... | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30

4800 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3660

#3181885 14-Jan-2024 20:54

tdgeek:

Tinkerisk:

Too much is changed too quickly by too many people who have no idea. As an engineer, I am certainly not hostile to technology, but it is essential to take people with you!

Politely I disagree. Humanity has shown over and over and over again we can do anything. Grab a sample, from an asteroid (37000 to 55000 mph) and return to Earth, no issue. Well its not easy but we can. But we battle with climate change in our own backyard?. $ and votes need to align, that is the issue

I agree with you! The people I mean are clueless (or reckless?) decision-makers who are influenced by lobbying, not by rational necessity - i.e. politicians (of all colors).

Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet.
Firewalls do NOT stop dragons.
In effect we have everything to hide from someone, and no idea who someone is.

frankv

5705 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3666

Lifetime subscriber

#3182544 16-Jan-2024 10:28

SaltyNZ:

On-site construction, for example; would be awkward to try to get a digger to a fast charger twice a day but you could bring in H2 trucks.

Hmmm... where an H2 truck can go, a battery truck can also go. A mains or even 3-phase supply is almost certainly closer than an H2 supply.

Ge0rge

2114 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2060

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3182547 16-Jan-2024 10:34

I read that as "a truck (irrelevant of drive train) carrying H2, would be easier to bring to an excavator, than trying to track the excavator to a powerpoint"

Azzura

609 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 224

ID Verified

#3182673 16-Jan-2024 13:38

frankv

5705 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3666

Lifetime subscriber

#3183108 17-Jan-2024 13:34

Ge0rge: I read that as "a truck (irrelevant of drive train) carrying H2, would be easier to bring to an excavator, than trying to track the excavator to a powerpoint"

Yes indeed. My point was that a truck carrying a battery can go where a truck carrying H2 can go, so you can bring the a fresh battery (either to replace the flat one, or to recharge it) to the digger just as easily as you can bring H2..

SaltyNZ

8869 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9554

Trusted

2degrees

Lifetime subscriber

#3183117 17-Jan-2024 14:13

frankv:

Ge0rge: I read that as "a truck (irrelevant of drive train) carrying H2, would be easier to bring to an excavator, than trying to track the excavator to a powerpoint"

Yes indeed. My point was that a truck carrying a battery can go where a truck carrying H2 can go, so you can bring the a fresh battery (either to replace the flat one, or to recharge it) to the digger just as easily as you can bring H2..

Can't find it now but The Algorithm fed me a video this morning of someone at CES interviewing a product manager from Caterpillar who are indeed producing battery mining and excavating equipment and associated support equipment (such as chargers). So I'm happy to report that apparently I was wrong.

iPad Pro 11" + iPhone 15 Pro Max + 2degrees 4tw!

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.

New World

Shop on-line at New World now for your groceries (affiliate link).

deepred

622 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 528

ID Verified

Trusted

#3187739 28-Jan-2024 16:34

From Bernard Hickey's latest Substack:

Backing this up is a recent study by researchers Taciano Milfont, Ariana Athey and Chris Sibley exploring climate change beliefs and concerns in New Zealand.

They found that the largest group, 60.4% of those surveyed, was comprised of those with the highest level of belief in, and concern about, climate change. Meanwhile, those with the lowest levels of belief and concern made up the smallest group (3.7%). The study also found that over time, people are consistently moving toward higher levels of climate change belief and concern.

That small group labelled as ‘Climate Sceptics’ in the study are more likely to be “male, New Zealand European, religious and to endorse conservative and system-justifying ideologies that are expected to perpetuate a hierarchical social system”.

In other words, climate deniers are motivated by a desire to maintain current societal structures from which they benefit. So, it’s less about the science and more about power and culture. The paper goes on to say that:

Noticeably, a desire to dominate and be superior to others is the main predictor of membership in the climate change denial segment of the population, which fortunately represents a minority of the New Zealanders in our sample.

However, although representing a minority, the demographic and socio-psychological characteristics of individuals within the climate change denial profile are often overrepresented in powerful socio-economic positions in society, meaning that their denial can be extremely consequential in delaying action (taken from the paper’s conclusion).

That first bit will surprise absolutely nobody who has had the questionable pleaure of engaging with climate deniers online. Another problem, as discussed in a study (The New Climate Denial) that we featured in last week’s climate wrap, is that traditional climate deniers are shifting to different strategies to delay action on climate change.

A lot of the so-called ‘new denial’ focuses on energy systems and transitions, claiming that they won’t work, will be too expensive, or will cause living standards to decline.

These claims can and should be countered, but in the rush to deal with this cloaked denial, there is also some risk of enforcing allegiance to a particular paradigm of technological progress that features overly optimistic solutionism and green growth agendas.

Pictures like this come to mind...

"I regret to say that we of the F.B.I. are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce." — J. Edgar Hoover

"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability to pay for them. Light blue touch paper." — Andrew Maxwell

michaelmurfy

meow
13581 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10914

Moderator

ID Verified

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3187846 29-Jan-2024 01:08

Just saw this linked on Hacker News:

Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Referral Links: Quic Broadband (use R122101E7CV7Q for free setup)

Are you happy with what you get from Geekzone? Please consider supporting us by subscribing.
Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.

kingdragonfly

11992 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12887

Subscriber

#3191043 5-Feb-2024 14:45

Human beings. Love 'em or hate 'em, but you can't eat 'em (for now)

Invasive green crabs aren't going anywhere, so why not eat them?

NEWS CENTER Maine

deepred

622 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 528

ID Verified

Trusted

#3191152 5-Feb-2024 15:03

kingdragonfly: Human beings. Love 'em or hate 'em, but you can't eat 'em (for now)

Invasive green crabs aren't going anywhere, so why not eat them?

NEWS CENTER Maine

And in Italy, it's a blue crab infestation...

Can Italy eat its way out of a blue crab infestation?

tdgeek

30048 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9455

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3191243 5-Feb-2024 19:29

Why not. I watched a short doco in YT recently, they farmed flies for the maggots. Protein heaven, but obviously they were shredded to a non maggot look. Its just nature, use it

Samsung

Shop now on Samsung phones, tablets, TVs and more (affiliate link).

tdgeek

30048 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9455

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3228817 10-May-2024 17:39

May 2024, ChCh. Often nice weather in May down here, and not referring to the decent frost this morning. Its far from May here

Sign of the times

Batman

Mad Scientist
30014 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6217

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3228920 11-May-2024 07:52

climate change is only for poor people, rich people don't have climate change.

quite likely they don't drink off paper straws either

kingdragonfly

11992 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12887

Subscriber

#3254306 29-Jun-2024 08:37

ABC Aus: US athletes to be given air conditioners at Paris Games amid heat fears for Olympians

The US Olympic team will buy air conditioners for the Paris Games to install in athletes' accommodation.

Sustainability at the Games has been put on the back foot by concerns over the health of athletes competing in a possible heatwave.

What's next? Australia, Germany, Italy, Canada and Britain have also reportedly said they will supply air conditioners for their Olympic teams.

Batman

Mad Scientist
30014 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6217

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#3254375 29-Jun-2024 10:59

kingdragonfly:

What's next? Australia, Germany, Italy, Canada and Britain have also reportedly said they will supply air conditioners for their Olympic teams.

no existing air conditioning in Paris? strange.

they are probably worried after what happened at the Hajj pilgramage

1 | ... | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30