geek3001:

 

What do I do if the printer end of the power cable is not detachable ?!?!

 

That's a beast of tool!

kingdragonfly:

sir1963: AND, I would add, no child has ever chosen who their parents will be.

 

 

 

 

 

So why punish the child just because they are unfortunate to have been born to bad parents.

Protect kids? Absolutely. But we overprotect them and raise adults who’ve never learned to spot a scam.

My generation survived Rick Rolls, "two women, one ___", “Go_tse” and early internet chaos.

Did you not Google search for obfuscated phrases? Good on you. You picked up it was a bad idea. At some point you developed skepticism, got wise, got inoculated, developed internet survival skills.

The same debate exists with safe playgrounds. If you remove every risk, you also remove the chance to develop judgment.

Guardrails make sense. Bubble wrap doesn’t.

I was a solo dad of an intellectually handicapped child.

He got both worlds, protection AND look after yourself.

If he did not make his school lunch because he threw a tantrum, he went hungry .
He was expected to get up, have a shower, have breakfast, etc etc etc every day.

School trips, parents liked having him in their group, he was the first up, breakfasted, gear packed, ready for that days activities.

But he was also protected. But then that was 30 years ago when the internet was nothing like the cesspool it is today.
Kid brains need time to develop, particularly through puberty and some years after. They do NOT need the Dopamine hit time after time, that leads to addictive behaviour  and Social media etc KNOW that.

When I grew up, yes there was stuff around that was not for kids, but we were not surrounded by it, we did not have cellphones and access to junk 24/7 so we had TIME to be educated, to learn critical thinking, etc etc etc a luxury kids today do NOT have.

Social media is even causing significant mental health issues for adults, and at no point do these companies take any form of responsibility and they certainly avoid taxes like crazy and leave the mess to be cleaned up by the rest of taxpayers. Personally I dont want to have to pay out for this when responsibility and liability for these companies would have a bigger impact. Prevention being cheaper than cure.

The ADULTS who dont want their info associated with their p0rn watching habits or other vices are the problem. They will happily sacrifice kids to "it's the parents fault" so they can continue to hide. How about THEY take responsibility and the consequences of their own habits and vices before telling anyone else to do the same.

"Safe playgrounds" means having having shock absorbent material under equipment to reduce serious harms. When I was at primary school (55+ years ago) we did have kids hospitalised, one with a skull fracture.
We also had one parent at home after school, I lived in a small community and everyone knew everyone and everyone looked after the kids. We did stupid stuff, just no dangerous stuff.

Charlie Kirk was happy enough for shooting deaths to guard his rights, doubt he ever considered he would be the sacrifice . The greatest cause of deaths for kids  in the USA  is guns. We have guard rails and guess what, we dont have the same problem the US does.

Problem is, any rule people dont like moves from "Guard rails" to "Bubble wrap" for no real reason except it impacts them.
And nowhere are kids consulted about any of this, yet they are the victims in the end.

The safety of kids comes way way before any Adults hiding behind anonymity.

sir1963:

 

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Social media is even causing significant mental health issues for adults, and at no point do these companies take any form of responsibility and they certainly avoid taxes like crazy and leave the mess to be cleaned up by the rest of taxpayers. 

 

 

 

The stuff you’re talking about there is just the beginning. The companies behind social media are also largely those behind AI. The damage AI is going to wreak on society and economies through job losses and restructurings and so on is going to be massive. And they’ll take no responsibility for that either - while reaping benefits for themselves.

eracode:

 

The stuff you’re talking about there is just the beginning. The companies behind social media are also largely those behind AI. The damage AI is going to wreak on society and economies through job losses and restructurings and so on is going to be massive. And they’ll take no responsibility for that either. 

 

Just look at X's "nudify" feature which they claim is "free speech"...... even when minors are the victims.

Yet it's interesting to see how they react when these features are turned against them, accounts are killed. Even tracking Elons plane was grounds for termination of account because of his perceived risk to himself, the the devastating harms he has caused others...its "Freedom".

geek3001:

 

@Geektastic:

 

Having an issue with our printer. 

 

Long conversation on WhatsApp. 

 

“

 

As checked with our backend team, we request you to make the printer standalone by removing all peripherals, including the power cord and any other connected devices. Then, power off the printer, press and hold the power button for 20 seconds, and release it.

 

After that, reconnect only the power cord, turn on the printer, and try adding the device again. Please let us know if you are able to complete the setup.”

 

 

 

 I’m no IT technician but surely I can’t power off the printer AFTER I remove the power cable?!

 

 

 

 

Well, I was just searching for a suggestion for a printer that works perfectly fine, but where the computer it's connected to by a USB cable stubbornly insists that the printer has a media jam.

 

Have a look at this Google AI generated crap, I mean, suggestion:

 

 

Apparently both ends of the power cable need to be disconnected, and you need to wait for several minutes to clear the printer's memory.

 

Really?

 

What do I do if the printer end of the power cable is not detachable ?!?!

 

 

 

 That is exactly the instruction given to me. By the official support of an international printer and PC company. 

eracode:

 

sir1963:

 

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Social media is even causing significant mental health issues for adults, and at no point do these companies take any form of responsibility and they certainly avoid taxes like crazy and leave the mess to be cleaned up by the rest of taxpayers. 

 

 

 

 

The stuff you’re talking about there is just the beginning. The companies behind social media are also largely those behind AI. The damage AI is going to wreak on society and economies through job losses and restructurings and so on is going to be massive. And they’ll take no responsibility for that either - while reaping benefits for themselves.

 

 Indeed. 

Further, in our rush to unalive ourselves, follow the logic to the very end:

 Imagine a world in which between them, humanoid robots and AI can do everything. Including everything necessary to build and design their replacements. No job or service cannot be performed by them. 

At that point, money becomes entirely unnecessary and so therefore does employment. Money exists only so that I can store the value of my labour to exchange it later for the value of someone else’s. 

However neither robots nor AI need to be paid. So everything they can do (which is literally everything in my example) need cost anything whatsoever. 

So what do we do with 10+ billion people who don’t need to work?

Geektastic:

 

That is exactly the instruction given to me. By the official support of an international printer and PC company. 

 

Well that's not good.

If one follows the instruction exactly, which some folk may do, the instruction doesn't actually tell you to reconnect the power cable to the printer, only plug the cable to a wall outlet, which would result in the printer not being powered on again, until said folk twig to the fact that the other end of the power cable needs to be reconnected to the printer.

Geektastic:

 

eracode:

 

sir1963:

 

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Social media is even causing significant mental health issues for adults, and at no point do these companies take any form of responsibility and they certainly avoid taxes like crazy and leave the mess to be cleaned up by the rest of taxpayers. 

 

 

 

 

The stuff you’re talking about there is just the beginning. The companies behind social media are also largely those behind AI. The damage AI is going to wreak on society and economies through job losses and restructurings and so on is going to be massive. And they’ll take no responsibility for that either - while reaping benefits for themselves.

 

 

 

 

 Indeed. 

 

Further, in our rush to unalive ourselves, follow the logic to the very end:

 

 

 

 Imagine a world in which between them, humanoid robots and AI can do everything. Including everything necessary to build and design their replacements. No job or service cannot be performed by them. 

 

At that point, money becomes entirely unnecessary and so therefore does employment. Money exists only so that I can store the value of my labour to exchange it later for the value of someone else’s. 

 

However neither robots nor AI need to be paid. So everything they can do (which is literally everything in my example) need cost anything whatsoever. 

 

So what do we do with 10+ billion people who don’t need to work?

 

It depends on whether the world gets "fully automated luxury communism" or a defictionalised Elysium. Stephen Hawking weighed the options:

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/stephen-hawking-says-robots-could-make-us-all-rich-and-free-but-we-re-more-likely-to-end-up-poor-and-unemployed-a6688431.html

Geektastic:

 

 That is exactly the instruction given to me. By the official support of an international printer and PC company. 

 

Honestly, how many times have we told you not to buy today's HP junk, hmm? Just wait until the AI ​​is implemented in their printers as announced. That'll be a real treat (just not for the user). 😉😁😎

How the hell can a NZ supplier of kiwifruit workers go bust owing IRD $57 million - without it ringing alarm bells way before it got to that level? NZH story today.

eracode:

 

How the hell can a NZ supplier of kiwifruit workers go bust owing IRD $57 million - without it ringing alarm bells way before it got to that level? NZH story today.

 

Not pay lots of workers' PAYE?

Tinkerisk:

 

Geektastic:

 

 That is exactly the instruction given to me. By the official support of an international printer and PC company. 

 

 

Honestly, how many times have we told you not to buy today's HP junk, hmm? Just wait until the AI ​​is implemented in their printers as announced. That'll be a real treat (just not for the user). 😉😁😎

 

From past experience, HP's consumer products are a bit rubbish, while their commercial products tend to be a lot better.

deepred:

 

From past experience, HP's consumer products are a bit rubbish, while their commercial products tend to be a lot better.

 

Yes, but I wrote HP and not HPe. 😉

deepred:

 

Tinkerisk: Honestly, how many times have we told you not to buy today's HP junk, hmm? . . .

 

 

From past experience, HP's consumer products are a bit rubbish, while their commercial products tend to be a lot better.

 

That certainly explains why my printer, which is asleep all day long, has the most DNS queries of any device in the last 24hrs.