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#685116 12-Sep-2012 17:14

Behodar: That's good to hear. If that restriction goes away then I could look at this as a serious competitor to Shipito.

Does anyone know where in the US the warehouse is? I'm wondering how much US sales tax we'd be stung for.

Oregon. Tax free. :-)

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#685117 12-Sep-2012 17:18

billgates: Oregon. Tax free. :-)

Aha! Great! :D

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#685118 12-Sep-2012 17:18

Behodar: That's good to hear. If that restriction goes away then I could look at this as a serious competitor to Shipito.

Does anyone know where in the US the warehouse is? I'm wondering how much US sales tax we'd be stung for.

Yes, Oregon. I have registered and got an address...

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#685119 12-Sep-2012 17:21

If that Li-Ion battery issue is resolved then this will be sweet. I am planning to buy the Microsoft surface tablet and was going to get it shipped to shipito's Oregon warehouse (tax free from MS online store) but shipto charges extra 10% in shipping frees from their Oregon warehouse because

they have to pay more rent there

With Youshop, I save the 10% extra shipping fees as well.

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#685136 12-Sep-2012 18:18

Glad to see that NZ is coming to speed - forwarding is not a new concept.

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#685139 12-Sep-2012 18:23

I can do this with my AMEX card and their globaleshop service. Never used it tho and apparently it's not cheap!

Can be used to buy when you need a US or a UK address.

EDIT: Also lets me use my AMEX card at stores that only accept a US card, apparently

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#685145 12-Sep-2012 18:57

SaltyNZ: How many planes have been downed by a burning battery anyway?

Believed to be at least one and a number of smaller incidents that could have turned out badly if left unchecked.

USPS prohibits shipping Lithium Ion batteries internationally.
UPS has restrictions (PDF) depending on various factors such as quantity and capacity.

So without careful management and examination of what exactly goes in each shipment, NZ Post may simply not be able to ship in goods with Lithium Ion batteries by air while following the rules.

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#685174 12-Sep-2012 20:27

ajobbins: I can do this with my AMEX card and their globaleshop service. Never used it tho and apparently it's not cheap!

Can be used to buy when you need a US or a UK address.

EDIT: Also lets me use my AMEX card at stores that only accept a US card, apparently

You don't need an AMEX either. It's provided by Borderlinx, which seems to be something to do with DHL. They charge less than YouShop for anything over 1kg as well (compare http://www.borderlinx.com/tcc/ and http://www.nzpost.co.nz/products-services/postage-packaging/youshop/youshop-international-postage - the difference gets huge as you go heavier). Borderlinx also takes significantly less time to deliver a package (they estimate 2-8 working days to deliver, while YouShop estimates 7-11 working days). (And they allow Li-Ion as long as it's packaged correctly).

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#685179 12-Sep-2012 20:32

Kyanar:

You don't need an AMEX either. It's provided by Borderlinx, which seems to be something to do with DHL. They charge less than YouShop for anything over 1kg as well (compare http://www.borderlinx.com/tcc/ and http://www.nzpost.co.nz/products-services/postage-packaging/youshop/youshop-international-postage - the difference gets huge as you go heavier). Borderlinx also takes significantly less time to deliver a package (they estimate 2-8 working days to deliver, while YouShop estimates 7-11 working days). (And they allow Li-Ion as long as it's packaged correctly).

Borderlinx seems to add tax to any computer equipment I select. For e.g Components under Computers, weighing at 1.5lbs USD$199 will cost NZ$75 incl shipping which is a rip off.

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#685182 12-Sep-2012 20:37

So to use most vendors in the states, will you need a US credit card? Or a credit card will a billing address that matches your "US address"?

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#685184 12-Sep-2012 20:42

billgates:
Kyanar:

You don't need an AMEX either. It's provided by Borderlinx, which seems to be something to do with DHL. They charge less than YouShop for anything over 1kg as well (compare http://www.borderlinx.com/tcc/ and http://www.nzpost.co.nz/products-services/postage-packaging/youshop/youshop-international-postage - the difference gets huge as you go heavier). Borderlinx also takes significantly less time to deliver a package (they estimate 2-8 working days to deliver, while YouShop estimates 7-11 working days). (And they allow Li-Ion as long as it's packaged correctly).

Borderlinx seems to add tax to any computer equipment I select. For e.g Components under Computers, weighing at 1.5lbs USD$199 will cost NZ$75 incl shipping which is a rip off.

No, that's right actually. That's all-inclusive- the tax is the customs charges, which may or may not apply (this page explains that customs uses a formula called "CIF" to decide the value for the purposes of tax calculation, and that something worth about $250NZD has a chance of having a high enough CIF to incur the charges). YouShop does not quote for the potential GST/import duty, but will still charge it. So, basically, not a rip off at all. Just remove the "taxes" component (which is charged by customs, not them) and compare that.

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#685185 12-Sep-2012 20:45

davidcole: So to use most vendors in the states, will you need a US credit card? Or a credit card will a billing address that matches your "US address"?

Most vendors really don't care - it's the online ones that are picky. However, they may trigger higher than normal fraud scores if the billing address doesn't match or cannot be checked (they use something called AVS - AVS is not possible on NZ cards, so they go based on the bank identification number which is the first 4 digits of the card number, which is why some online vendors reject NZ cards), in which case you might need to talk to the vendor which might or might not result in them refusing to ship to you.

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#685187 12-Sep-2012 20:53

Jarno:
Believed to be at least one and a number of smaller incidents that could have turned out badly if left unchecked.

I admittedly just skimmed through that... but it doesn't seem to say anything conclusive about the batteries actually causing the crash or the emergency landing. It just notes the planes had li batteries on them.

And all the incidents seem to involve shipments\pallets of batteries, loaders dropping pallets, prototypes for electric cars, etc. A bit different to shipping a single tablet or phone I'd say!

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#685188 12-Sep-2012 20:56

I've been using BuyUSA.co.nz for a few years and it seems its varies which is cheaper. If it's small but heavy, BuyUSA wins, if it's light or big and light YouPost wins.

For example a 30x30x30 cm box...

5kg

BuyUSA.co.nz $78.95 (North Island) $98.68 (South Island)
YouPost: $117.50 (Anywhere)

10kg

BuyUSA.co.nz $138.16 (North Island) $151.32 (South Island)
YouPost: $222.50 (Anywhere)

But...

1kg

BuyUSA.co.nz $78.95 (North Island) $98.68 (South Island)
YouPost: $33.50 (Anywhere)

Much cheaper!

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#685190 12-Sep-2012 20:58

Kyanar:

No, that's right actually. That's all-inclusive- the tax is the customs charges, which may or may not apply (this page explains that customs uses a formula called "CIF" to decide the value for the purposes of tax calculation, and that something worth about $250NZD has a chance of having a high enough CIF to incur the charges). YouShop does not quote for the potential GST/import duty, but will still charge it. So, basically, not a rip off at all. Just remove the "taxes" component (which is charged by customs, not them) and compare that.

USD$250 is ~ NZ$305. You can bring up to NZ$400 worth of goods incl shipping costs without paying any GST. Duty is another component which may or may not apply depending on the item. I have never been charged GST for goods under NZ$400 incl shipping via shipito or via amazon directly. Borderlinx seems to add the tax component which you cannot remove. Yes the shipping is cheaper than youshop but if you cannot remove the tax component then it's more expensive. I understand that if you declare a 50" Plasma for USD$300, customs will tell you to get lost and charge you GST accordingly but borderlinx seems not care and add the tax based on the category you have selected.

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