First of all Ben Affleck is a great choice for the role of Batman. Why? He will look good donning the black cape and he will look good as a rich philanthropist/billionaire. He is an experienced actor who is more than qualified to pull off the character. In reality Batman is not a very hard character to pull off as he is a man of few words and a lot of action. Bruce Wayne is who he really has to pull off and I think he'll do a fine job of that as he actually is a rich philanthropist.
A lot of people talk about the dark days of George Clooney and Val Kilmer playing Batman, let me set one thing straight they were terrible movies because they were terribly written and terribly directed. Joel Schumacher ruined those movies not Val or George, and I also here people saying how good Christian Bale was but with that voice he used, never have I wanted the Joker to kill Batman so much. Good writing and good direction is what made those films great. The same could be said for Daredevil. The director for Daredevil was a guy named Mark Steven Johnson who also directed Ghost Rider, need I say more.
I'd also like to say that, like a lot of people, I was very worried about some of Christopher Nolan choices for roles in his Batman franchise. But like all, my jaw dropped when an Australian man named Heath pulled off this unbelievable new take on the Joker character. I was also skeptical of the casting of Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, Tom Hardy as Bane and an Englishman as Commissioner Gordon but all had stellar performances. I would also have to say that apart from the odd exception I do not like either Russell Crowe or Kevin Costner but both those men won "Fictional Father of the Year" awards in my eyes for Man of Steel. Like all those actors Ben has made some poor role choices and has been marred for them but also like those actors he has had moments of greatness and it's those moments I think we should be focusing on.
Another thing I would like to add is people seem to forget that this is first and foremost a Superman film and hence is not actually going to have the big back story we expect from a Batman film and I imagine he will appear in the film about as much as Catwoman did in The Dark Knight Returns and when he is on screen I imagine a lot of it will be action scenes with little to no dialogue. But lets all hope he does an excellent job and let the beginning of the Justice League franchise take place.
I think we are missing the point here, the bigger question should be... Whos Gonna be the new joker?
Can I give a suggestion? Christian Bale, the new joker! Man I would love to see Ben Affleck's batman get murdered by a Christian Bale Joker! Lol..
on a side note, I don't really like Ben Affleck, horrible actor, he always has this confused look on his face as hes trying to be serious and tackling a bad stomach condition.
after the initial shock, i think I may be coming around to ben affleck...
looking at him, he does have the look. his voice is the main problem IMO. Christian bales batman voice was utterly terrible, and in TDKR when batman and bane were talking you need subtitles at times to understand what they just said.
Man of Steel was that great IMO, maybe 7 out of 10. So I'm worried that the director wont be able to pull off such a huge movie with both superman and batman and people think its impossible and just write off these two appearing on screen again.
reven: Man of Steel was that great IMO, maybe 7 out of 10. So I'm worried that the director wont be able to pull off such a huge movie with both superman and batman and people think its impossible and just write off these two appearing on screen again.
This is my concern, too. I just don't have much confidence in the director, I am yet to see a Snyder-directed movie that I really, thoroughly enjoy. Sure, some of them are a bit of fun, but really great? Not in my opinion. The Batman / Superman matchup is, imo, one of the most fun in the DC universe, and It'll be really sad if they can't get it right. Or maybe I just like seeing the Boyscout of Steel brought whimpering to his knees.
At first I was 'no way'. Today I decided to google image search this guy... hmmm he could actually pull it off. I'd say the movie barons want to get the female viewers into this as it was a group of females who were the ones to first tell me about the choice of the new on screen batman.
When Michael Keaton was cast in Burton's Batman there was a very similar uproar but IMO he has been the best live-action Batman to date. Also Zack Snyder is the best choice for this kind of movie as he already directed Watchmen which featured a very similar character to Batman (Night Owl) and an almost Godlike superhero like Superman (Dr Manhattan) and he made it work. I have a lot of faith in Zack Snyder, so far every single thing he has directed I have enjoyed so as far as I'm concerned he can cast Sean Connery as the next Batman and it will still be a great film... maybe.
Hobchild: When Michael Keaton was cast in Burton's Batman there was a very similar uproar but IMO he has been the best live-action Batman to date. Also Zack Snyder is the best choice for this kind of movie as he already directed Watchmen which featured a very similar character to Batman (Night Owl) and an almost Godlike superhero like Superman (Dr Manhattan) and he made it work. I have a lot of faith in Zack Snyder, so far every single thing he has directed I have enjoyed so as far as I'm concerned he can cast Sean Connery as the next Batman and it will still be a great film... maybe.
so in your opinion "Man of Steel" was a great film?
Hobchild: When Michael Keaton was cast in Burton's Batman there was a very similar uproar but IMO he has been the best live-action Batman to date.
OK, there are people who have said this but really did anything matter in the first Batman film past Tim Burton's vision for Gotham City or Jack Nicholson's Joker? Not really. He was in the second one, Batman Returns. Does anybody remember that? No, because it was confused rubbish and Keaton didn't make any difference. Keaton got lucky and and was one of the things that didn't go very wrong with that film.
Hobchild: Also Zack Snyder is the best choice for this kind of movie as he already directed Watchmen which featured a very similar character to Batman (Night Owl) and an almost Godlike superhero like Superman (Dr Manhattan) and he made it work.
Yeah, I liked Watchmen too. But A) Alan Moore is a genius so the source material was good and; B) I think we have both read the book and you, like me, loved seeing a work we loved on the big screen. People who haven't read the book mostly went: "Ahh? What the hell was that?".
Hobchild: I have a lot of faith in Zack Snyder, so far every single thing he has directed I have enjoyed so as far as I'm concerned he can cast Sean Connery as the next Batman and it will still be a great film... maybe.
We might get lucky but I would say the odds are against it. I think he has gotten lucky, Watchmen, and not so lucky 300 which was entertaining but ... Yeah, the less said about the capes and loincloths the better.
Personally, I think pulling off a Superman / Batman crossover is extremely hard and the probable studio edict to 'make it like The Avengers because that made a lot of money, but make more money' isn't a good start.
Having said all that Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor is a really interesting choice and the most positive thing I have seen so far.
crackrdbycracku: OK, there are people who have said this but really did anything matter in the first Batman film past Tim Burton's vision for Gotham City or Jack Nicholson's Joker? Not really. He was in the second one, Batman Returns. Does anybody remember that? No, because it was confused rubbish and Keaton didn't make any difference. Keaton got lucky and and was one of the things that didn't go very wrong with that film.
I would probably call Batman Returns my third favourite Batman film (if Heath Ledgers Joker wasn't in The Dark Knight then it would be my second). I pretty much can't picture anybody aside from Danny DeVito playing the Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer made an excellent Catwoman, still my favourite so far.
crackrdbycracku: Yeah, I liked Watchmen too. But A) Alan Moore is a genius so the source material was good and; B) I think we have both read the book and you, like me, loved seeing a work we loved on the big screen. People who haven't read the book mostly went: "Ahh? What the hell was that?".
Believe it or not I hadn't actually heard of Watchmen before the movie came out and yet I still really enjoyed it. But agreed Alan Moore is a genius though they did do a good job of screwing up League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That movie should have been awesome but once again look at the director.
crackrdbycracku: We might get lucky but I would say the odds are against it. I think he has gotten lucky, Watchmen, and not so lucky 300 which was entertaining but ... Yeah, the less said about the capes and loincloths the better.
Personally, I think pulling off a Superman / Batman crossover is extremely hard and the probable studio edict to 'make it like The Avengers because that made a lot of money, but make more money' isn't a good start.
Having said all that Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor is a really interesting choice and the most positive thing I have seen so far.
Well said, although I would say the odds are in our favour. But you seem to agree that it's not so much the casting than it is the director, our opinions however differ on the director.
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