Oh the fun of TradeMe - Reselling for more.

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#3042014 26-Feb-2023 06:37

1024kb: These people are doing nothing wrong.

This statement is too broad. While there is nothing wrong with reselling items for profit, when sellers are stealing content from others or misrepresenting the quality or origin of products, then they clear are doing something wrong.

In the case of @jonathan18's listing, they are doing all three. They have taken his content (both text and images), deliberately omitted pertinent details relating to the condition of the product and made claims of first-person experience with the product that they do not have.

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#3042016 26-Feb-2023 07:06

I don’t have an issue with people buying and flipping on trade me as long as they are honest with their listing and use their own content.

I do however take issue with stuff bought here on Geekzone which is later sold on trade me for profit. Geekzone is a community and what we sell here is offered at a price that befits a community, one that passes on to others. To find it later sold on for profit is a little annoying.

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#3042017 26-Feb-2023 07:19

1024kb: Ever heard of capitalism? These people are doing nothing wrong. Were you happy with the price you achieved? Good, so your argument is based upon what? You do realise that once you accept payment for the goods that they are no longer yours - and that as an ex-owner you have precisely zero claim over them?

To justify this point of view, you need to add a condition to the original sales contract - & probably adjust your price downwards to compensate for the loss of opportunity. Following the same vein of thought - how accommodating will you be when the new owner contacts you, complaining that they weren't able to get their money back on resale?

Without this type of entrepreneurial spirit, this country would be a lesser civilisation.

Wow, that’s all a little bit aggressive for a Sunday morning! Not sure there’s the need for that sneering tone, old chap…

And, as for my issue with the seller’s actions, see the reply two above which sums it up perfectly. As mentioned earlier, I’ve had items resold before and been ok with it; there are specific circs in this case which make me less comfortable with the way the seller has behaved.

My main issue is that the quality of the goods have been misrepresented: I provided clear information IRT this which the reseller has deliberately excluded. If you’re ok with that, then clearly you and I have a very different idea of what is professional and ethical behaviour.

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#3042039 26-Feb-2023 10:06

Hard times currently, high inflation, a looming recession. People will do anything now a days for a quick buck.

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#3042453 26-Feb-2023 22:35

richms:

RunningMan:

Maybe, but saying a type 1 connector can do 3 phase shoes they don't have a clue.

Don't they whack 2 phases into the type 1 connector giving it 400v? Seems like that would be the most logical thing to do inorder to get more power out of the supply.

In this case, no. You can see the L2 & L3 lack pins in the photo. Also EV's aren't typically set up to handle 400v delivered in this way, so stuff would break.

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#3042455 26-Feb-2023 22:41

My biggest pet hate like this is people who scour charity shops for things and then sell them at a profit on TM.

I am a fairly staunch capitalist but I draw a line at that. Stuff in those shops is, to my mind, for people who cannot afford to get things elsewhere. It's not for the middle classes to play Bargain Hunt.

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#3042523 27-Feb-2023 05:27

Bargain hunting is fine, the charity shops exist to generate money not to be the Warehouse of last resort. What isn't fine is trying to haggle the price down. Some of the shops are better at recognising treasure and pricing accordingly or putting it on TM themselves. I know of at least one that passes on items to those in genuine need bypassing the shop.

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#3042535 27-Feb-2023 07:49

Geektastic:

My biggest pet hate like this is people who scour charity shops for things and then sell them at a profit on TM.

I am a fairly staunch capitalist but I draw a line at that. Stuff in those shops is, to my mind, for people who cannot afford to get things elsewhere. It's not for the middle classes to play Bargain Hunt.

I never thought that was the case. In fact the opposite. I believe their main goal is simply to get stuff sold so they have cash to distribute. There's plenty of charity shops in well-to-do neighborhoods and not so many in deprived areas which to me backs this up. The pricing is set low because the cost of donated product is nil. They are better to turn it over fast and make money than have it sit in the store and cost them money. If the TM dealer is not more skilled at price setting then he's doing the shop a favour by clearing stock.

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#3042616 27-Feb-2023 11:23

Geektastic:

My biggest pet hate like this is people who scour charity shops for things and then sell them at a profit on TM.

I am a fairly staunch capitalist but I draw a line at that. Stuff in those shops is, to my mind, for people who cannot afford to get things elsewhere. It's not for the middle classes to play Bargain Hunt.

Well if the charity shops used a bit of initiative they too could list their stuff on trademe. Is that not the actual problem?

The same goes for garage sales, I dont see anything wrong with people going on garage sale hunts, finding valuables and making a profit.

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#3042623 27-Feb-2023 11:32

Wombat1:

Well if the charity shops used a bit of initiative they too could list their stuff on trademe. Is that not the actual problem?

The same goes for garage sales, I dont see anything wrong with people going on garage sale hunts, finding valuables and making a profit.

They are usually staffed by volunteers who struggle with the technology of the eftpos machine.

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#3042700 27-Feb-2023 12:11

richms:
They are usually staffed by volunteers who struggle with the technology of the eftpos machine.

And you can't expect volunteers to be experts in women's clothing brands, computer hardware, men's shoes, cricket equipment, Nintendo games, fine China tea sets etc...

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#3042754 27-Feb-2023 12:26

They probably will know women's clothing brands and tea sets but men's suits will be $20 whether they're Hallensteins or Saville Row.

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#3042766 27-Feb-2023 12:59

richms:

Wombat1:

Well if the charity shops used a bit of initiative they too could list their stuff on trademe. Is that not the actual problem?

The same goes for garage sales, I dont see anything wrong with people going on garage sale hunts, finding valuables and making a profit.

They are usually staffed by volunteers who struggle with the technology of the eftpos machine.

There are a few charity shops I have purchased from via TradeMe.

A charity shop near me has started an online store (Shopify platform) for furniture and the large ticket they sell.

I think it's just time and hassle to package/ship, vs selling for a few dollars less in-store.

I've seen a DMX LED par-can that was for sale at this op-shop, it wasn't purchased for a month. When I noticed it had gone, it appeared on TradeMe at $45 (original was $20).

The person even left the original barcode the op-shop used on it.

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#3042782 27-Feb-2023 13:42

jonathan18:

Any thoughts on the best COA?

You should also be able to ask TradeMe to take down the listing citing copyright on the text and images.

Especially the images should be easy to prove ownership of and hard for TradeMe to ignore.

From TradeMe:

There are also some legal requirements under Section 92C of the Copyright Act which mean that if we “know or have reason to believe” that a listing on the site breaches copyright, we need to remove it.

Source (look under "Intellectual property and Trade Me")

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#3042809 27-Feb-2023 14:39

Geektastic:

My biggest pet hate like this is people who scour charity shops for things and then sell them at a profit on TM.

I am a fairly staunch capitalist but I draw a line at that. Stuff in those shops is, to my mind, for people who cannot afford to get things elsewhere. It's not for the middle classes to play Bargain Hunt.

My local charity shop mainly sells antiques at quite high prices, so not the sort of things that low income people are probably after. Eg an old antique singer sewing machine, or ornate crystal glasses, all over $100. I suspect some people still buy these to then resell on trademe.

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