AI will destroy us before climate change?

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#3057402 1-Apr-2023 11:53

Wombat1:
Like his right wing teslas? Or his right wing starlink? Yes terrible for both our environment and society.

Some of his products and services may be ok, others aren't.

The person is still a douchebag in my opinion.

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#3058117 3-Apr-2023 10:17

Nope, pretty sure we'll all be underwater before AI, real AI i.e. general artificial intelligence gets here.

GPT is simply a statistical model selecting words based on an algorithm that is run across a corpus of data scraped from the internet.

It might give a seemingly intelligent response to your question, it might not, it's simply a roll of the dice as to the words you get out and what area of it's corpus your question is about.

I say seemingly, because there's no intelligence there at all - it's a more advanced search query with a clever statistical linguistic algorithm bolted on top.

It doesn't think, reason, have opinions, have the ability to learn - sure it can answer questions, but so can google and no one thinks of google as an AI.

The add-ons portion of GPT is potentially dangerous - these are giving the model the ability to do other things than simply respond to questions. The ability for it to run it's own python code in a sandbox is worrying for example.

Were someone to take that, and give it access to something sensitive (either intentionally or inadvertently) then that could be dangerous - the code could randomly execute a code branch that could cause a cascade ending in, well, insert your doomsday scenario here.

But that isn't AI - that's humans being dumb.

We're no-where near a SkyNet or HAL or similar looking to benevolently wipe us from the planet for our own good.

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#3058127 3-Apr-2023 10:41

freitasm:
Wombat1:
Like his right wing teslas? Or his right wing starlink? Yes terrible for both our environment and society.

Some of his products and services may be ok, others aren't.

The person is still a douchebag in my opinion.

An important distinction. We have to learn (as people and as a society) to be nuanced about people and their work. Almost no-one is all bad. And even if they were would that matter if they produced something useful?

Most of the great thinkers and creators of the past would be rejected by today's ethics based on their common for-the-times prejudices. Churchill more or less lead the saving of the free-world, and he was a great historian but has recently been accused of racism and/or genocide.

I strongly dislike some of Musk's behaviour. I certainly wouldn't work for him. However, he seems to have a talent for pulling a team together to deliver daunting technological projects.

I also think society is better for having him, on balance. He has made the EV viable, mainstream and sexy. He stood on the shoulders of others (including the Prius and Leaf) to do so. Tesla hasn't been first here, but they have followed with aplomb and probably done more for EVs in the modern error than those they followed.

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#3058179 3-Apr-2023 12:51

MikeAqua:

An important distinction. We have to learn (as people and as a society) to be nuanced about people and their work. Almost no-one is all bad. And even if they were would that matter if they produced something useful?

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#3058413 3-Apr-2023 13:58

Well Elon did not 'Found' the company.

The good of the Inventions and the Inventor may not necessarily align.
Some want to contribute in a wider sense, others just narcists building empire.
We have had plenty of narcists of recent times running amuck.

Edison an acclaimed inventor. Developing the first inventing factory, I guess.

Was perhaps not a very nice person, into eugenics.
His philanthropy only went as far as educational institutes that may gain him prestige and provide research and staff to further his business.

The Mine & Mill Owner may have been acclaimed. for the heat light and clothing , from Coal, Coal Gas, and Cotton Mills.
Putting the poor and their children to work where they might otherwise be making streets unsightly.
Especially the children for whom education would be a waste of resources.

If we can forge Ai that does not descend into narcissism, there is a future?
Apparently, the go now is to get GPT to critique its output, then revise the result, possibly rinse and repeat.
In the way that you might have an idea then review and go Yeh-Nah.

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#3058449 3-Apr-2023 14:46

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Well Elon did not 'Found' the company.

Of course he did. He bought the right to say so fair and square from the guys who started the company. 🤡

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#3058501 3-Apr-2023 14:58

There is an Elon bashing thread already.

Can we get back on topic?

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#3058502 3-Apr-2023 15:00

Dingbatt:

There is an Elon bashing thread already.

Can we get back on topic?

I say we are on topic. It's the people in charge of the AI who will in large part decide whether it's used to help or destroy us. It's very relevant that the likes of Elon Musk are those people in charge.

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#3058517 3-Apr-2023 15:39

Well the thread starter was:

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Elon Musk was among the dozens of tech leaders, professors and researchers who signed the letter, which was published by the Future of Life Institute, a nonprofit backed by Musk.
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I think its fair to consider that this person and a number of his associates may not have everyone's best interest in mind.
They were championing a 'non woke' Ai of their own, cos that would contribute so much to civilization.

Perhaps the answer if Ai gets to that point is an appreciation of humor, then it may keep us around for amusement.
What happens when it discovers cats though ?

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#3058584 3-Apr-2023 19:09

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What happens when it discovers cats though ?

Total confusion. 99% of the internet is pictures of pussies. It won't know how to tell them apart.

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#3058757 4-Apr-2023 08:05

It doesn't really matter if AI ever reaches a point we would regard as sentient. All that matters is it reaches a point where human beings are seen as something to be removed from the equation. There are already algorithms that can do that.

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