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#304024 30-Mar-2023 07:22
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feel free to drive your utes and your V8s around coz climate change might not be your problem lol

 

 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/tech/ai-letter-elon-musk-tech-leaders/index.html

 

Some of the biggest names in tech are calling for artificial intelligence labs to stop the training of the most powerful AI systems for at least six months, citing “profound risks to society and humanity.”

 

Elon Musk was among the dozens of tech leaders, professors and researchers who signed the letter, which was published by the Future of Life Institute, a nonprofit backed by Musk.

 

The letter comes just two weeks after OpenAI announced GPT-4, an even more powerful version of the technology that underpins the viral AI chatbot tool, ChatGPT. In early tests and a company demo, the technology was shown drafting lawsuits, passing standardized exams and building a working website from a hand-drawn sketch.

 

The letter said the pause should apply to AI systems “more powerful than GPT-4.” It also said independent experts should use the proposed pause to jointly develop and implement a set of shared protocols for AI tools that are safe “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

 

“Advanced AI could represent a profound change in the history of life on Earth, and should be planned for and managed with commensurate care and resources,” the letter said. “Unfortunately, this level of planning and management is not happening, even though recent months have seen AI labs locked in an out-of-control race to develop and deploy ever more powerful digital minds that no one – not even their creators – can understand, predict, or reliably control.”

 

If a pause is not put in place soon, the letter said governments should step in and create a moratorium.

 

The wave of attention around ChatGPT late last year helped renew an arms race among tech companies to develop and deploy similar AI tools in their products. OpenAI, Microsoft and Google are at the forefront of this trend, but IBM, Amazon, Baidu and Tencent are working on similar technologies. A long list of startups are also developing AI writing assistants and image generators.

 

Artificial intelligence experts have become increasingly concerned about AI tools’ potential for biased responses, the ability to spread misinformation and the impact on consumer privacy. These tools have also sparked questions around how AI can upend professions, enable students to cheat, and shift our relationship with technology.

 

The letter hints at the broader discomfort inside and outside the industry with the rapid pace of advancement in AI. Some governing agencies in China, the EU and Singapore have previously introduced early versions of AI governance frameworks.


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  #3056387 30-Mar-2023 07:59
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  #3056407 30-Mar-2023 08:24
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SaltyNZ:

 

 

 

generally some reference to Terminator is my response to any conversation about AI as well.    These are the historical documentaries people should be watching.

 

 





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  #3056410 30-Mar-2023 08:29
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I’ve noticed through my experimental interactions with ChatGPT at least that it frequently outputs mentions of climate change. I couldn’t help but wonder if someone had cranked up climate change as a subject in its DB.

I asked it why this is so and the answer, which is obvious, is that it’s output will simply contain current and popular topics.




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  #3056460 30-Mar-2023 11:07
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MadEngineer: I’ve noticed through my experimental interactions with ChatGPT at least that it frequently outputs mentions of climate change. I couldn’t help but wonder if someone had cranked up climate change as a subject in its DB.

I asked it why this is so and the answer, which is obvious, is that it’s output will simply contain current and popular topics.

 

It's just because the corpus it was trained on contained that topic more frequently, presumably because it's a current and popular topic. It's a prediction engine, nothing more. All it does is work out what word is the most likely to be correct when inserted next. I actually hate how it gets called "AI". It's not an intelligence, not even an artificial one.


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  #3056461 30-Mar-2023 11:15
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Mark Manson had an interesting take on this in his second book "Everything is F....."

 

The gist is that the day AI can write AI software better than humans, the development will take off beyond human comprehension.  Things will happen based on algorithms we can't comprehend, and humans will return to a state of worshiping invisible gods, instead this time it will be our "AI gods", who will dictate everything that happens in our lives.  

 

There's lots of other parts to this conclusion, I thought it was an interesting read.   





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  #3056467 30-Mar-2023 11:29
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I imagine AI may look at the impact humans have on our planet and take measures to slow our roll as a RESULT of climate change.

 

 


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  #3056486 30-Mar-2023 12:14
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Neither will destroy us.  Both are significant threats that are worthy of intervention. Neither warrants the shrill apocalypse-mongering that some experts engage in.  Frankly, it's harmful and can make people look away rather than take the subjects seriously.  In that sense it's self-defeating.

 

Popular fiction being interpreted as likely fact around AI doesn't help.  It somewhat reminds me of the hysteria around nuclear power, following the publication of China Syndrome.  





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  #3056500 30-Mar-2023 13:05
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The biggest problem is people thinking that GPT models are somehow intelligent in any way, and assuming that the output should always be trusted as factual - it isn't. Ask it a question about which it has too small a corpus to form predictions from, and it will generate plausible nonsense with no basis in reality. And then, because a lot of the corpus will be formed from argument and debate, it will proceed to appear to defend that "opinion" to the death, simply because statistically that's where the conversation goes.


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  #3056503 30-Mar-2023 13:09
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We have an advantage that AI can't overcome - we don't run on electricity from a wall socket.


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  #3056513 30-Mar-2023 13:25
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Could be very ominous application of 

 

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  #3056515 30-Mar-2023 13:26
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SJB:

 

We have an advantage that AI can't overcome - we don't run on electricity from a wall socket.

 

 

Throw it up onto the cloud and such physical limitations and restrictions start to melt away though....


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  #3056521 30-Mar-2023 13:44
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In answer to the question in the title, then I would say “yes”.

 

Mainly because climate change isn’t going to “destroy us”. It may force a change in how or where we live, but considering that humans are probably second only to cockroaches in our ability to adapt and live anywhere, destruction seems unlikely.

 

We are more likely to be destroyed by

 

Nuclear conflict

 

An asteroid strike, or

 

a pandemic caused by lethal pathogen,

 

than either of the things in the title.

 

Given all of the above, I expect all reading this thread in the present day (2023), are  likely to succumb to old age, illness or accident before any of them.





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Dingbatt:

 

In answer to the question in the title, then I would say “yes”.

 

Mainly because climate change isn’t going to “destroy us”. It may force a change in how or where we live, but considering that humans are probably second only to cockroaches in our ability to adapt and live anywhere, destruction seems unlikely.

 

We are more likely to be destroyed by

 

Nuclear conflict

 

An asteroid strike, or

 

a pandemic caused by lethal pathogen,

 

than either of the things in the title.

 

Given all of the above, I expect all reading this thread in the present day (2023), are  likely to succumb to old age, illness or accident before any of them.

 

 

That's a bit of a strange take on things isn't it. The chances of an asteroid strike are miniscule compared to the factual climate change that is already happening.

 

As to a lethal pathogen, world population is predicted to hit 10 billion in 2050. It is estimated that in 1800 world population was about 1 billion. in other words. we'll have grown 10-fold within 250 years. Imagine a non-climate altering event, like a pandemic, which wipes out 90% of the population. Let's say we're back to 1 billion by year 2050. Given the current level of technological progress vs 1800, we'll have probably bounced back to 10 billion within 150 years, as opposed 250 years that it took us the last time. So instead of reaching 10 billion by 2050 we'll have reached it by 2200. On the scale of things, it's just a blip on the timeline. But the key to it is that the climate remains favourable to human propagation.

 

Change the climate - you'll have altered birthrate significantly. Change the climate suffciently enough - you'll have entered a non-recoverable population decline.





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  #3056588 30-Mar-2023 14:21
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wellygary:

 

SJB:

 

We have an advantage that AI can't overcome - we don't run on electricity from a wall socket.

 

 

Throw it up onto the cloud and such physical limitations and restrictions start to melt away though....

 

 

So the cloud doesn't run on electricity?

 

 


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  #3056591 30-Mar-2023 14:32
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SJB:

 

So the cloud doesn't run on electricity?

 

 

No, I'm saying it doesn't have a  wall socket you can pull to down your AI....


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