Jeremy Clarkson reported as being sacked from top gear

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#1267926 25-Mar-2015 21:17

He used sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.

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#1267931 25-Mar-2015 21:22

his columns are way funnier and more regular than top gear.

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#1267962 25-Mar-2015 22:02

KiwiNZ:
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KiwiNZ:
Yes I am guilty of not wanting xenophobia and racism.

It's not that most of us are particularly keen on those things, but we accept that humour based on them can sometimes be funny. Personally I think no subject is taboo when it comes to comedy, and if you are offended by it, don't listen to it.

It is not funny

It really is.

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#1267964 25-Mar-2015 22:03

mattwnz: I think TG works, because it is a bit like your PC incorrect granddad or dad is hosting it, and reviewing the cars. It is because it is so un PC that is works. The versions in US and Oz are just too sanitized and bland.

And of course, to borrow the spirit of Jeremy, they have Aussies and Yanks presenting....! ;-)

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#1268065 26-Mar-2015 08:36

He hasn't been fired or sacked - his contract is up and it isn't being renewed. Going by May's social media stuff, he won't be renewing either, and I doubt Hammond would on his own... though I'm sure the Beeb would be keen on some form of continuity (besides The Stig) if they do continue with TG, so the wallet will be out!

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#1268073 26-Mar-2015 08:51

Geektastic:
KiwiNZ:
Lias:
KiwiNZ:
Yes I am guilty of not wanting xenophobia and racism.

It's not that most of us are particularly keen on those things, but we accept that humour based on them can sometimes be funny. Personally I think no subject is taboo when it comes to comedy, and if you are offended by it, don't listen to it.

It is not funny

It really is.

"That bridge has a slope on it" That was racist, and possibly one of the funniest lines I've heard on the show.

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#1268078 26-Mar-2015 08:56

Smithy100: He hasn't been fired or sacked - his contract is up and it isn't being renewed. Going by May's social media stuff, he won't be renewing either, and I doubt Hammond would on his own... though I'm sure the Beeb would be keen on some form of continuity (besides The Stig) if they do continue with TG, so the wallet will be out!

Is it wrong I hope they spend a lot of money signing up some other stars, only for it to be a total flop and cost them millions?

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#1268089 26-Mar-2015 09:00

Firstly my family are Top Gear fans. Even to the point of going to the "Top Gear Live" show in Auckland a couple of years ago. Which was brilliant by the way and far less PC than the tv show.
However I have found recent seasons of the show less entertaining and more formulaic. Drive a car that no normal person can afford and present a review. Perform a challenge in a foreign country where circumstances become so contrived that they are obviously working to a formula. Provide a segment to prove Britain is still 'Great'. Even the other petrolhead segments like the 'Cool Wall' don't seem to appear as often. For me the highs were reached in the days of the Reliant Robin Shuttle and the Cross Channel Amphibians.

As an aside, I have come to enjoy Top Gear USA. The dynamic between the three hosts is a little different to the UK one. They still do challenges that are a direct analogue of the British one (multi storey condo, paper rocket and fold out tent in the campervan episode) but also have enough variation for it to be fresh. But if you don't like the Oz/US versions because they really aren't proper TG then the UK version without the three amigos will be dead to you. The BBC may as well change the name to CVT because I think their ratings are headed for the low range.

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#1268090 26-Mar-2015 09:00

Smithy100: (besides The Stig)

Poor Stig - will he just be locked in the hangar until they decide what theyre doing ?

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#1268101 26-Mar-2015 09:13

It's weird to see this defence of Clarkson and his actions, when I think they're really indefensible.

JimmyC:Whilst I certainly do not condone physical violence toward a co-worker, I think the BBC has become way to PC these days...

Seriously? By suggesting it's somehow alright that Clarkson attacked another BBC worker (or at least suggesting it's not a good enough reason to not renew his contract) I'd say that is getting close to saying physical violence is ok or acceptable in such cases. or perhaps it should be tolerated because he's important and the BBC needs him more than he needs them?

Geektastic: [snip] the BBC is partly to blame because they should have ensured proper catering was available for everyone at whatever time they finished filming. As press reports have pointed out, the BBC is poor at looking after talent.

The BBC should take NO responsibility for Clarkson's attack on the the guy. Whether or not they should have ensured Clarkson's every whim should be met at whatever time he deigned to show up after being on the turps for hours is another matter, but it Clarkson needs to take full responsibility for the decision to get physical (and verbally abusive).

Place this in a more 'normal' employment context - if Joe Worker acted like that AFTER numerous warnings for inappropriate/unacceptable behaviour, I bet you'd get the same result. To also suggest like someone did above that his employment status shouldn't be affected if he wasn't prosecuted/found guilty of assault is also ludicrous - behaviour doesn't have to be proven in court to be illegal to warrant action in the employment setting.

Yes, I think Clarkson's a total plonker, but can also be really amusing. I also remain a regular viewer of Top Gear and will miss him and it, but in the end the BBC made the right decision to not tolerate this behaviour (and I'm pleasantly surprised they had the balls to do so, given the cash cow that the programme apparently is for them).

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#1268111 26-Mar-2015 09:23

xpd: I like the fact JC always said what he was thinking (well..as much as he could) on a family show, little bit un-PC, little bit racist etc but arent we all really ?

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#1268112 26-Mar-2015 09:25

Geektastic:
BTR: New TG featuring Jay Kay, Chris Harris and Tiff?

Also why are people blaming the BBC, Clarkson is the one at fault he hit the producer and cause the issue in the first place. The BBC and probably stuck between a rock and a hard place, sack him and risk ruining TG or let him off with another final warning and risk being dragged into a union battle...

The BBC is a leftie organisation that will be delighted they got rid of Clarkson to be honest. I expect they have been gnashing their teeth for years trying to work out how.

They much prefer people who aligned with their agenda. He isn't.

Err, maybe they are simply a responsible employer that doesn't tolerate any of staff physically assaulting other staff members in the workplace?

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#1268114 26-Mar-2015 09:28

jonathan18: It's weird to see this defence of Clarkson and his actions, when I think they're really indefensible.

JimmyC:Whilst I certainly do not condone physical violence toward a co-worker, I think the BBC has become way to PC these days...

Seriously? By suggesting it's somehow alright that Clarkson attacked another BBC worker (or at least suggesting it's not a good enough reason to not renew his contract) I'd say that is getting close to saying physical violence is ok or acceptable in such cases. or perhaps it should be tolerated because he's important and the BBC needs him more than he needs them?

Geektastic: [snip] the BBC is partly to blame because they should have ensured proper catering was available for everyone at whatever time they finished filming. As press reports have pointed out, the BBC is poor at looking after talent.

The BBC should take NO responsibility for Clarkson's attack on the the guy. Whether or not they should have ensured Clarkson's every whim should be met at whatever time he deigned to show up after being on the turps for hours is another matter, but it Clarkson needs to take full responsibility for the decision to get physical (and verbally abusive).

Place this in a more 'normal' employment context - if Joe Worker acted like that AFTER numerous warnings for inappropriate/unacceptable behaviour, I bet you'd get the same result. To also suggest like someone did above that his employment status shouldn't be affected if he wasn't prosecuted/found guilty of assault is also ludicrous - behaviour doesn't have to be proven in court to be illegal to warrant action in the employment setting.

Yes, I think Clarkson's a total plonker, but can also be really amusing. I also remain a regular viewer of Top Gear and will miss him and it, but in the end the BBC made the right decision to not tolerate this behaviour (and I'm pleasantly surprised they had the balls to do so, given the cash cow that the programme apparently is for them).

Surely the BBC had to have rocks in their collective heads to pair this producer with Clarkson? I know nothing more than I have read in the media but this had to have been building up for a while.

The sort of man who would "take himself to hospital" because he had a swollen/cut lip is clearly not the kind of person you have working with Clarkson.

Anyway, once this had happened "real men" sit down have a beer together and sort it out.

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#1268115 26-Mar-2015 09:30

If this occurred as reported in a team I was managing it would have resulted in dismissal.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1268116 26-Mar-2015 09:31

The sort of man who would "take himself to hospital" because he had a swollen/cut lip is clearly not the kind of person you have working with Clarkson.

Anyway, once this had happened "real men" sit down have a beer together and sort it out.

Compare with Hammond's near death dragster accident, Clarkson at Fuji in the Nissan GTR and May when he was caught by the tow rope in the dessert.

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