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#3165847 29-Nov-2023 17:55

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Taking the wheel off and inspecting the brakes is the least I would expect VTNZ do, that is part of checking road worthiness is it not?

im amazed how they past my left rear brake but not the right ;)

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#3165862 29-Nov-2023 18:26

Bung:

The checksheet doesn't include every item to be tested. Electric vehicles fail if they display certain diagnostic lights. The VIRM Table 13-5-2 contains examples including a battery for serious electrical system fault and a triangular master warning light. If the Leaf lights were similar to either of these VTNZ were entitled to want more detail before passing.

Fair enough, thanks. Would they also fail an ICE for a an electrical fault? According to Batman the VTNZ techs didn't know it was an EV.

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they went in and deliberated and then said - in her words - "oh so this is an electric car?" - then passed.

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Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#3165951 29-Nov-2023 20:03

floydbloke:

Apologies, "not entirely truthful" was a poor choice of words, no inference of anyone's lying intended.

However, I'm just flabbergasted that (this branch of) VTNZ could be so bad at their job.. They must get tens of Nissan Leafs every month, if not week, and I really can't fathom that they hadn't come across one before so wondering if there's a bit more context to the story. Along the lines of "this was xx years ago and we were one of the first in NZ to own a Leaf" or "the car was initially inspected by a couple of new apprentices"

If events did indeed play out as simply as you initially described then if it'd been me I would have certainly made a formal complaint (and maybe you did?).

thanks for clarifying. i am describing exactly what she told me. this was some time middle of this year. VTNZ Dunedin.

i didn't make any complaints, I mean, it becomes her word against their word, likely nothing will happen, and i really have better things to do with my time.

i said "i told you" she said "i told you you should sort out the wof not my fault" and we both had a laugh.

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#3165990 29-Nov-2023 20:46

What warrant interval would an imported Leaf qualify for? With new cars getting a 3 year warrant maybe VTNZ only see latest tech if it is taxi COF time.

I foolishly went to the Levin VTNZ thinking it would be done while I waited rather than the usual half day at a garage and it turned into a 2 day argument whether the original tinted side windows were factory or not. An email from Suzuki NZ got the manager to give me the WOF on retest but the original inspector told me if left to him he'd still fail it. It beggars belief.

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#3166023 29-Nov-2023 21:03

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What warrant interval would an imported Leaf qualify for? With new cars getting a 3 year warrant maybe VTNZ only see latest tech if it is taxi COF time.

After 3 years of age, it's yearly. Cars built before 2000 are 6 monthly (so wouldn't apply to EVs)

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#3166056 29-Nov-2023 22:08

VTNZ are well known for failing on trivial things and things that should pass and then completely missing clearly dangerous stuff.

They are overpriced and most of the inspectors are old fools who shouldnt be anywhere near a car and will argue until blue in the face even when shown how incorrect they are with the VIRM.

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#3166209 30-Nov-2023 09:57

Daynger:

VTNZ are well known for failing on trivial things and things that should pass and then completely missing clearly dangerous stuff.

They are overpriced and most of the inspectors are old fools who shouldn't be anywhere near a car and will argue until blue in the face even when shown how incorrect they are with the VIRM.

I agree. It's where pedantic curmudgeon's go to die.

I avoid the place like the plague.

I also believe that businesses should be prohibited from providing WOF inspections if they sell parts relevant to WOF inspections (bulbs, wiper blades etc), and/or undertake any form or servicing or repair of vehicles. It's a clear conflict of interest.

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#3166230 30-Nov-2023 10:45

If you avoid VTNZ is there any other agency that is not in the servicing business.

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#3166283 30-Nov-2023 11:13

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#3166286 30-Nov-2023 11:19

Had VTNZ do a pre-purchase inspection. Got the "all good" from them, nothing wrong with the car. It overheated and died 20 minutes drive from the dealer lot - the water pump was dead. Left it there and had the dealer pick it up from where I left it.

That was 10 years ago, and I haven't set foot at VTNZ since.

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#3166303 30-Nov-2023 11:36

Kookoo:

Had VTNZ do a pre-purchase inspection. Got the "all good" from them, nothing wrong with the car. It overheated and died 20 minutes drive from the dealer lot - the water pump was dead. Left it there and had the dealer pick it up from where I left it.

That was 10 years ago, and I haven't set foot at VTNZ since.

They wouldn't have had it running for long enough to check out correct cooling system operation. Some things you can only tell when putting the engine under load while driving.

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#3166358 30-Nov-2023 11:50

Have a 5 year old car that needed a WOF, thought it was touch and go on the rear tyres (1.6mm tread left) and was going to replace them on my next days off, but since it needed a WOF took it to VTNZ Pukekohe.

It failed because the tints on the factory windows were too dark (talking to smith and smith later about it, you can’t even get glass for the car without tints). But the tyres weren’t even borderline, they were good for another 40,000km according to the inspector.

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#3166384 30-Nov-2023 12:44

My car failed at VTNZ Te Rapa over a washer fluid reservoir that wasn't full.

That was 15 years ago, I never went back to VTNZ since.

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#3166386 30-Nov-2023 12:48

K8Toledo:

My car failed at VTNZ Te Rapa over a washer fluid reservoir that wasn't full.

That was 15 years ago, I never went back to VTNZ since.

That is probably the most legit fail on this thread so far, as they have to check that it works to wash the windscreen.

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#3166388 30-Nov-2023 12:52

richms:

K8Toledo:

My car failed at VTNZ Te Rapa over a washer fluid reservoir that wasn't full.

That was 15 years ago, I never went back to VTNZ since.

That is probably the most legit fail on this thread so far, as they have to check that it works to wash the windscreen.

I'd understand if it was empty, however in this case there was maybe 1/4 bottle fluid left. But no, the inspector said the reservoir had to be full.

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