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  #2671280 10-Mar-2021 19:40
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dafman:

 

I watched them interviewed in their palatial manicured garden, complaining that Archie can’t call himself a Prince, and I thought of all the families with parents earning minimum wage, working multiple jobs, struggling just to meet the basics, like the weekly rent and food on the table.

 

Privileged versus the privileged, and they expect us to feel for them. Yeah, nah.

 

 

 

 

do you want to try that again?

 

if you had really watched it, you would know that they stated right in the beginning that the sit down interview wasn’t filmed at their home. 


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  #2671282 10-Mar-2021 19:50
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I watched them interviewed in their palatial manicured garden, complaining that Archie can’t call himself a Prince, and I thought of all the families with parents earning minimum wage, working multiple jobs, struggling just to meet the basics, like the weekly rent and food on the table.

 

Privileged versus the privileged, and they expect us to feel for them. Yeah, nah.

 

 

I just watched it, never heard that. I heard he will lose his title, but the issue is he has lost his security. As Harry said, who has also lost his security, he was borne into risk. he is still at risk as are his family. Thats what the royals cut off. 


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  #2671287 10-Mar-2021 20:06
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GSManiac:

 

 

 

do you want to try that again?

 

if you had really watched it, you would know that they stated right in the beginning that the sit down interview wasn’t filmed at their home. 

 


I like the Royals, I was raised with that here in NZ. 

 

Ive just watched it, and beforehand, my expectations is that the 1200 year old Monarchy rules its 1200 year old tradition or else, , or Harry and Meg want it all plus heaps of freedom.  Its clear what it uis.

 

Who? A 1200 year old thing, or two young adults in 2020 who don't want to be a lifeless cog in the Firm bubble? Happy to stay and serve but want some freedom and choice. No way, your cut off. There is no freedom or choice. As he said, trapped. I imagine Charles is a deep seated part of this, but its 2020 not 1820, or 1920, or 1968.

 

I love the Royal traditions but maybe the Royalists here need to look at the whole situation. 

 

My only criticism is that Meg doesnt read the news. At all? Apparently not. Did she not realise that her life ends with  she marries?

 

In any case, the Firm having 100% control doesn't work in 2020, and if you aren't blue blood, you are a problem. And American, and coloured. As Harry said, she could have ben an asset to the Firm. Modern, coloured, what we see in 2020, bringing the Royal Family up to date. And today we saw Charles doing a stint with coloured people. Funny that. 

 

The Royal Family haven't adapted, she was their way to show that, but its locked in stone. And while protocol states that Archie has a title and security, they changed that due to status. Whether thats racial status or your not playing the game status, I have no idea.


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  #2671288 10-Mar-2021 20:12
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Didn't watch it, but like others have read some of the highlights.

 

Comes across like they expected to keep all the perks of being a royals, but none of the responsibility or duties. If they choose to stand down from their duties, it's only reasonable that they lose the perks.

 

They had hoped to continue to receive money from Harry's father, Prince Charles...

 

Sounds pretty self-entitled.

 

As far as the racism thing goes, was it just one person questioning whether Archie would be "too brown" to represent they royal family? Obviously a very inappropriate comment, but did it really represent the whole family?

 

Also, how much of it is true? This is one side of the story from someone who has been financially cut-off, and for whom it's most advantageous to cast themselves as the victim.

 

 

He was born into risk, inherited, forced. He expects to have security. They wanted to back away from the hardcore non life, and serve.No, your gone was the result. 

 

Brown. The interview painted a better picture of the family and a bad picture of this that run the Firm. Its a 1200 year old FIXED tradition, you have to assimilate. To think that an American, brown, actress would not fit in, is quite clear.. Its one side, yes, but its a hardcore fixed tradition  elephant against vs a modern mouse 


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  #2671289 10-Mar-2021 20:18
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billgates: Well done I say Harry and Meghan for also exposing the Royal family. It will not be easy for Harry to say and do what he said and what he did for his wife and kids. leaving behind guaranteed income and luxury. He saw it coming it with how 'the establishment' were driving his wife to same treatment as they gave to his mother Diana. The media in UK is rubbish and was racist towards Meghan. And to all the Royal supporters in media and elsewhere. I do not see you talk about prince Andrew. I for sure know and saw how much condemnation (lack of) the royal family befitted upon him for what he did and still continues to deny. Racism is deeply rooted into the royal family. I am happy that Harry broke free along with his wife and kids like Diana did and will enjoy rest of his life unlike the Les Misérables in his family's kingdom back home.

 

Hear hear, well said. Andrew is bad. But he is part of the establishment, he knows his place, so he is protected. Sorted. Harry and Meg seem lovely and modern. They are just a family. Want to serve, but not on Establishment terms, so the 1200 year old protocols are changed and dump them. Charles is part of this, and his brother wants to be a part of this. Hence strained relationships. 

 

Its 2020, adapt.


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  #2671290 10-Mar-2021 20:21
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GSManiac:

 

A lot of you sure have formed opinions on the interview without actually taking the time to watch the interview. therefore I find your opinions invalid. How about you employ some critical thinking skills instead.

 

My parents watched it last night and they were absolutely anti Meghan prior. This interview changed that for them and now find her genuine in her struggle against the BRF. For what it’s worth, I wasn’t a fan of hers either before but the interview changed my opinion of her. 

 

 


Me too. Wrong person, not what we want in OUR family, crushed and spat out. Comments from others about Harry being under the thumb? Wow. He has been a man taking care of his family.  


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  #2671292 10-Mar-2021 20:25
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Eva888: Spoilt, entitled Megan and Harry live in a 14 mil dreamworld mansion, preaching to the world about kindness and inclusiveness but go on international TV to humiliate their own family and ultimately themselves. Weren’t they taught as kids that family matters are private. The father of kind Megan has not yet been allowed to see his grandchild or daughter that he lives 70 miles away from.

Harry a 36 year old married man who took his family away for a 'private life' in the US was upset that his daddy stopped paying for their lavish lifestyle when he left UK and stopped performing royal duties. The entire show was an orchestrated smear on Harry's family as payback for being cut off from the money and something they will one day regret doing. A great cash bonanza for Oprah.

Thinking of ones own grandparents, how many grandkids would do something so public to hurt them. Good on the Grandmother Queen's dignified response refusing to make a public rebuttal and instead putting out a short statement saying they would deal with the matter privately. That’s how family matters are settled.

 

Thinking of one's grandchildren, how many grandparents and/or parents would allow them to be shoved out when they want to serve but not 24/7 for another 50 years?

 

He has money from his inheritance. His security and his sons security is a birthright to be paid by the Royal Family as they were born into risk. Soi he needs income for that. How a family can remove security is beyond me


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  #2671311 10-Mar-2021 20:49
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Prince Harry has served his country in several military deployments and in harms way, how many who talk of him being privileged have served in harms way? He has done a lot of work for rehabilitation of wounded service men and woman and worked in areas of mental health.


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  #2671312 10-Mar-2021 20:52
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There are wealthy and royal families in the world that come in many skin shades. Everyone has their own interpretation of what racism means to them. What one person views as racist another may view as perfectly innocent.

I read Dr Seuss books to my kids when they were little. Now many of those books are being banned as racist so I guess finding that ridiculous makes me racist in the eyes of many, yet I have chosen a Hindu person to rent a flat to...hmm I didn’t choose a Chinese or a European person, maybe I’m racist?

Too much analysis and wokeness only brings more divisiveness if people don’t have the intellect or the moral compass to simply do what’s genuine and kind and to be discreet. So getting back to the interview I think it failed the genuine and kindness test, let alone discreet.

 

Yeah, damn all those nanny-state-loving snowflakes who have spoilt it for the rest of us; it was just so much more simple back in the day when people understood how the world worked, and it did - it just worked, without the need for any of this PC bollox. And today - I mean my kids can't even play with their golliwogs without some random libtard accusing me of racism. I mean, what?! Some of my best friends are Non-Whites so how can I be racist?

 

 

 

/sarcasm

 

 

 

[Mod edit (MF): added /sarcasm to make it clear]


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  #2671313 10-Mar-2021 20:52
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Prince Harry has served his country in several military deployments and in harms way, how many who talk of him being privileged have served in harms way? He has done a lot of work for rehabilitation of wounded service men and woman and worked in areas of mental health.

 

 

He's a millionaire son of a millionaire who is the son of millionaire etc, He's the very definition of privilege.

 

 


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  #2671314 10-Mar-2021 20:54
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Eva888: I read Dr Seuss books to my kids when they were little. Now many of those books are being banned as racist so I guess finding that ridiculous makes me racist in the eyes of many, yet I have chosen a Hindu person to rent a flat to...hmm I didn’t choose a Chinese or a European person, maybe I’m racist?

 

https://thespinoff.co.nz/books/09-03-2021/horton-hears-a-whinge-on-teachers-and-dr-seuss-who-is-not-cancelled-nor-banned/

 

 


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  #2671317 10-Mar-2021 20:58
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Handle9:

 

 

 

He's a millionaire son of a millionaire who is the son of millionaire etc, He's the very definition of privilege.

 

 

 

 

He has not acted privileged not like some eg the Orange President. When in harms way a bullet doesn't care if you are a millionaire or not.


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  #2671323 10-Mar-2021 21:26
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MikeB4:

 

Handle9:

 

He's a millionaire son of a millionaire who is the son of millionaire etc, He's the very definition of privilege.

 

 

He has not acted privileged not like some eg the Orange President. When in harms way a bullet doesn't care if you are a millionaire or not.

 

 

Being in the military is no sign of particular virtue. There are plenty of good people and a fair few grubs.


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  #2671324 10-Mar-2021 21:28
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GSManiac:


 


do you want to try that again?


if you had really watched it, you would know that they stated right in the beginning that the sit down interview wasn’t filmed at their home. 



I like the Royals, I was raised with that here in NZ. 


Ive just watched it, and beforehand, my expectations is that the 1200 year old Monarchy rules its 1200 year old tradition or else, , or Harry and Meg want it all plus heaps of freedom.  Its clear what it uis.


Who? A 1200 year old thing, or two young adults in 2020 who don't want to be a lifeless cog in the Firm bubble? Happy to stay and serve but want some freedom and choice. No way, your cut off. There is no freedom or choice. As he said, trapped. I imagine Charles is a deep seated part of this, but its 2020 not 1820, or 1920, or 1968.


I love the Royal traditions but maybe the Royalists here need to look at the whole situation. 


My only criticism is that Meg doesnt read the news. At all? Apparently not. Did she not realise that her life ends with  she marries?


In any case, the Firm having 100% control doesn't work in 2020, and if you aren't blue blood, you are a problem. And American, and coloured. As Harry said, she could have ben an asset to the Firm. Modern, coloured, what we see in 2020, bringing the Royal Family up to date. And today we saw Charles doing a stint with coloured people. Funny that. 


The Royal Family haven't adapted, she was their way to show that, but its locked in stone. And while protocol states that Archie has a title and security, they changed that due to status. Whether thats racial status or your not playing the game status, I have no idea.



Actually protocol states that Archie does not get the Prince title until Charles is King.

Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.

At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.

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  #2671326 10-Mar-2021 21:34
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Rikkitic:

 

Saying ' I hope the child isn't too dark because that may affect its prospects in life' is certainly racist. It may not be badly intended, but it is definitely racist. 

 

 

Isn't that a true statement in some countries? Does that still make it racist if the dad says it?


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