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#2740684 7-Jul-2021 16:23

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There is no NZ entity from which to seek enforcement for a CGA claim.

NZ tax law does apply as every import to NZ is subject to gst. Amazon collect that tax on your behalf as they are obligated to.

So what would happen if Amazon said "sorry, we're not paying GST, NZ"? There is no NZ entity from which to seek redress, surely?

Then you would pay.

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#2740743 7-Jul-2021 16:57

I am more interested in if they have opened other amazon stores back up to NZ, since july is when they have started to have to comply with a whole lot of destination VAT/GST rules in europe that the AU and NZ ones were modeled on. I miss UK and JP amazon stores for exclusives to those regions, whereas the AU one just has mostly the same tat as local at a slightly better price.

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#2740749 7-Jul-2021 17:24

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So if they don’t play ball, who do you complain to for redress? And what jurisdiction would the likes of NZ small claims court or commerce commission have over an Aussie company? By the same token, would the ACCC care about NZ complaints when they can’t even cope with their domestic ones?

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has a memorandum of understanding with the New Zealand Commerce Commission and Ministry of Consumer Affairs as detailed on this page - the Commerce Commission can exercise ACCC's authority (and vice versa) to protect NZ consumers under the ACL, same as how ASIC and MBIE can exercise each other's authority to hold directors of companies in the other jurisdiction to account.

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#2740780 7-Jul-2021 18:28

Kyanar:

Dingbatt:

So if they don’t play ball, who do you complain to for redress? And what jurisdiction would the likes of NZ small claims court or commerce commission have over an Aussie company? By the same token, would the ACCC care about NZ complaints when they can’t even cope with their domestic ones?

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has a memorandum of understanding with the New Zealand Commerce Commission and Ministry of Consumer Affairs as detailed on this page - the Commerce Commission can exercise ACCC's authority (and vice versa) to protect NZ consumers under the ACL, same as how ASIC and MBIE can exercise each other's authority to hold directors of companies in the other jurisdiction to account.

Ah finally, the point of geekzone..for all us(we) other geeks who are too lazy to research outside our sphere of expertise

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#2740785 7-Jul-2021 18:48

Kyanar:

Dingbatt:

So if they don’t play ball, who do you complain to for redress? And what jurisdiction would the likes of NZ small claims court or commerce commission have over an Aussie company? By the same token, would the ACCC care about NZ complaints when they can’t even cope with their domestic ones?

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has a memorandum of understanding with the New Zealand Commerce Commission and Ministry of Consumer Affairs as detailed on this page - the Commerce Commission can exercise ACCC's authority (and vice versa) to protect NZ consumers under the ACL, same as how ASIC and MBIE can exercise each other's authority to hold directors of companies in the other jurisdiction to account.

I don't think they can take any action though - that would require enabling legislation which I don't think exists. It's an MOU which says it's not binding in any way. To make it binding in NZ would require enabling legislation.

I read this as it would have to be the ACCC taking action in Australia on an Australian company.

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#2740788 7-Jul-2021 19:09

mdooher:

Ah finally, the point of geekzone..for all us(we) other geeks who are ~~too lazy~~ disinterested/too busy to research outside our sphere of expertise

Fixed that for you.

Sometimes that is why a post is posed as a question.

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#2740790 7-Jul-2021 19:13

Dingbatt:

mdooher:

Ah finally, the point of geekzone..for all us(we) other geeks who are too lazy disinterested/too busy to research outside our sphere of expertise

Fixed that for you.

Sometimes that is why a post is posed as a question.

Actually I consider those synonyms...😜

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#2741066 8-Jul-2021 11:04

The order that was supposed to be delivered tomorrow just showed up, a day earlier.

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#2741069 8-Jul-2021 11:15

freitasm: The order that was supposed to be delivered tomorrow just showed up, a day earlier.

Not too bad for speed.. Will have to see if there's something worth buying there..

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#2741126 8-Jul-2021 13:12

My item was just delivered too, day ahead of schedule

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#2741175 8-Jul-2021 15:09

My login doesn't seem to work, weird. I thought your Amazon login worked for any Amazon site, not just the US?

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#2741180 8-Jul-2021 15:21

quickymart:

My login doesn't seem to work, weird. I thought your Amazon login worked for any Amazon site, not just the US?

My US login worked fine.

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#2741245 8-Jul-2021 16:39

old3eyes:

quickymart:

My login doesn't seem to work, weird. I thought your Amazon login worked for any Amazon site, not just the US?

My US login worked fine.

Mine also works on all of the amazons, but with password managers it may have a wrong one saved on the other domain names.

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#2741258 8-Jul-2021 17:21

Bought something today, says delivery Tuesday, let's see how it goes.

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#2741328 8-Jul-2021 18:53

about time

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