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  #3034749 10-Feb-2023 18:51
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Well they seem to be taking feedback on board. It appears they've now figured out how to deal with data for when people have the same name as another property owner, and we're no longer listed as owning multiple properties.

Thank goodness for that. Our rates are bad enough, without the possibly of receiving more invoices in the post! (Of course I wasn't expecting that to happen)




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  #3034750 10-Feb-2023 19:00
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Stu: It appears they've now figured out how to deal with data for when people have the same name as another property owner, and we're no longer listed as owning multiple properties.

Not the case for me, still showing up as 23 properties lol

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  #3034751 10-Feb-2023 19:06
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I just checked a couple of known rental properties and they've got hidden details as well. The site needs nuking.




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  #3034752 10-Feb-2023 19:07
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Perhaps they've started working on a way to hide details of people owning less than a certain number of properties?




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  #3034753 10-Feb-2023 19:08
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Handle9:

That’s the nice thing about publicly available information. There doesn’t need to be a record.

 

I think there is a difference between public information that people can scrape together for their needs, and just a quick dump of information.

 

Those that have a genuine need will put in time and effort to gather the information from disparate sources .

 

QAnon and its ilk won't, nor will they validate the information to ensure it is accurate. We can already see the consequences of this in drive by shootings using mistaken identity/wrong information.

 

What happens when someone is evicted by a letting agency and they decide to take vengeance on the owner. Would you be comfortable knowing that the information may incorrectly identify one of your family members because they have the same name ?

 

People who are angry, delusional, mentally ill, etc act on impulse .

 

But I am sure that when something invariably goes wrong, the site owners will maintain their anonymity  and just post a template "opps, we will do better" statement

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  #3034754 10-Feb-2023 19:08
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Yep, looks like they have redacted all names, so website is effectively useless now.

 
 
 
 

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  #3034755 10-Feb-2023 19:12
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Stu: Perhaps they've started working on a way to hide details of people owning less than a certain number of properties?

 

 

 

If they truely believed that people had a right to know, they would not be hiding behind anonymity themselves.

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  #3034757 10-Feb-2023 19:20
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They're obviously aware of this thread ;)

 

 




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  #3034759 10-Feb-2023 19:25
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sir1963:

 

Handle9:

That’s the nice thing about publicly available information. There doesn’t need to be a record.

 

I think there is a difference between public information that people can scrape together for their needs, and just a quick dump of information.

 

Those that have a genuine need will put in time and effort to gather the information from disparate sources .

 

QAnon and its ilk won't, nor will they validate the information to ensure it is accurate. We can already see the consequences of this in drive by shootings using mistaken identity/wrong information.

 

What happens when someone is evicted by a letting agency and they decide to take vengeance on the owner. Would you be comfortable knowing that the information may incorrectly identify one of your family members because they have the same name ?

 

People who are angry, delusional, mentally ill, etc act on impulse .

 

But I am sure that when something invariably goes wrong, the site owners will maintain their anonymity  and just post a template "opps, we will do better" statement

 

 

Who defines a "genuine" need? It's public information or it's not. We aren't in 1980 anymore, all manner of data is available to be used in any way the person using it sees fit.

 

If it's not public information then that's a different discussion.

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  #3034760 10-Feb-2023 19:25
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Update on their "blog"

 

 

 

 

Updates 10/02/2023

 

 

 

 

Changelog:

 

• Obfuscated the names of property owners who own less 20 titles.

 

• Updated the “Why” section of the website.

 




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  #3034762 10-Feb-2023 19:35
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xpd:

 

 

• Updated the “Why” section of the website.

 

 

 

post-colonial Aotearoa? But thats an entirely different discussion.

 

I searched my address as we are renting out two properties in NZ, both of them the details are hidden.

 

 

 
 
 
 

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Strongly recommend do not search for a property owned by Housing New Zealand Limited. Very... crashy. They don't appear to have put any effort in to prevent the lookup of every single state house in the country which not least for performance reasons they should have done.

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  #3034775 10-Feb-2023 20:06
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Wombat1:

 

post-colonial Aotearoa? But thats an entirely different discussion.

 

I searched my address as we are renting out two properties in NZ, both of them the details are hidden.

 

 

That's what it said before the updates. Now they declare a need to "address" the "colonial system of private land ownership" which somehow their website achieves (how?), and frankly is not the cause of wealth inequality.

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  #3034779 10-Feb-2023 20:14
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Although they say it can't be crawled by search engines, there is no robots.txt file and every address does have a unique URL (e.g.), so it looks quite a lot like it is indexable. It's all client-side rendered, but the search engines all render the page these days. I can't see any reason at all that it "is not indexable by search engines" like they say and like the licence requires, and it doesn't look like they've even tried.

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  #3034803 10-Feb-2023 21:20
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tchart: ...

BTW there I believe you can request your data not be made public in that dataset (similar to the NZTA) ...

 

Thanks for that.

 

The Information for landowners page has a link to Withholding land ownership information.

 

Top line summary: If you are concerned for your safety, or that of your family, you can apply to the Registrar-General of Land (Registrar) to withhold information from the register if that information will disclose your whereabouts and prejudice your safety.

 

 

 

Edited to add: Withholding Information in the Register Guideline 2021 – LINZ OP G01256




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