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#714078 8-Nov-2012 11:28

DoggNZ: TL;DR but I bet this wouldn't have happened if the OP was using an Android.........

i was going to LOL but ... science took over and wanted to know more ... can you explain

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#714084 8-Nov-2012 11:35

joker97:
DoggNZ: TL;DR but I bet this wouldn't have happened if the OP was using an Android.........

i was going to LOL but ... science took over and wanted to know more ... can you explain

I think the technical term is 'taking the p!ss'

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#714086 8-Nov-2012 11:41

joker97:
DoggNZ: TL;DR but I bet this wouldn't have happened if the OP was using an Android.........

i was going to LOL but ... science took over and wanted to know more ... can you explain

Haha - I was half way through writing something similar, but thought better of it. My reading is that the cop saw the iPhone5 and thought, hey, here's someone with more money than sense ... (no offence intended towards the OP)

(Edit = typo fix)

Things are LookingUp.... A photo from my back yard :-)

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#714107 8-Nov-2012 12:32

LookingUp:
joker97:
DoggNZ: TL;DR but I bet this wouldn't have happened if the OP was using an Android.........

i was going to LOL but ... science took over and wanted to know more ... can you explain

Haha - I was half way through writing something similar, but thought better of it. My reading is that the cop saw the iPhone5 and thought, hey, here's someone with more money than sense ... (no offence intended towards the OP)

(Edit = typo fix)

Lol the amount of people who have said "Omg you always say you're so broke blah blah" (I'm a full time student) is insane, they know this phone costs a lot but I got it on contract, taking $250 off the price to start with, and I got 12 month deferred payment, I havn't actually paid a single cent of this phone off at all yet.

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#714108 8-Nov-2012 12:34

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Next thing I know, a cop comes up to me and asks for my licence, so I show it to him, he writes down a few things, asks if its my car, so and so. Then says "Expect your ticket in the mail" and I replied "excuse me? What for?" (Keep in mind, he had not said anything prior to this, other than "Can I see your licence" and "is this your car". He said "don't text and drive" to which I replied "Well actually Im not, and the car is stopped" and he just walked off. Another thing to note here, he hadnt pulled me over, he actually just walked up to me because traffic was completely stopped.

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I think your last sentence here could be significant. If you get a ticket for using a mobile while in the flow of traffic, then is an officer allowed to do all that ^ while you're in the flow of traffic? I'd suggest he should have pulled you over to the side of the road out of the flow.

And is he sure you were using a phone? It could have just been a camera. Plenty of cameras look like phones if you don't look at them too closely. You have the photo right?

Yes I still have the photo, I could argue it was a camera, because while he was walking over I had put it back down and he wouldn't have been able to see it ( did not do this to hide it, I actually didn't know he was coming until he was like half way there.)

And exactly, traffic cant be in a flow at all if an officer believes it is safe enough to walk over to my car and take details.

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#714117 8-Nov-2012 12:56

tardtasticx: Lol the amount of people who have said "Omg you always say you're so broke blah blah" (I'm a full time student) is insane, they know this phone costs a lot but I got it on contract, taking $250 off the price to start with, and I got 12 month deferred payment, I havn't actually paid a single cent of this phone off at all yet.

excellent money management skill..

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#714119 8-Nov-2012 13:01

The ticket may turn out to be a written warning!

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#714123 8-Nov-2012 13:18

tardtasticx:And exactly, traffic cant be in a flow at all if an officer believes it is safe enough to walk over to my car and take details.

Lots of people in this thread stating absolutes.

e.g. the above sentence makes zero sense.

A breath test checkpoint would be considered a flow of traffic, and police officers will walk across the flow looking at reg, WOF, tyres, doing breath tests, looking at passengers, looking at seatbelts etc.

I feel dumber reading this thread.

You *might* get a ticket, because you used a cellular telephone whilst you were in control of your car in a motorway lane in a situation where traffic may have been directed to move.

I can't believe anyone would argue that point.

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#714129 8-Nov-2012 13:21

I think the topic of this thread should read, "Drivers not knowing the rules"

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#714143 8-Nov-2012 13:34

Part of the problem is that laws don't keep up with technology. A phone can do so much more than simply make calls and txt. It could be used as a GPS device or camera, and if you were handling either of those dedicated devices in your car, they wouldn't probably care. But because it was mobile phone shaped, then the law kicks in, and it is probably very difficult to prove that you weren't txting or making a call when you pick up a phone in a car.

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#714154 8-Nov-2012 13:50

mattwnz: Part of the problem is that laws don't keep up with technology. A phone can do so much more than simply make calls and txt. It could be used as a GPS device or camera, and if you were handling either of those dedicated devices in your car, they wouldn't probably care. But because it was mobile phone shaped, then the law kicks in, and it is probably very difficult to prove that you weren't txting or making a call when you pick up a phone in a car.

GPS on a phone is perfectly legal, providing the phone is mounted. If I recall correctly there was an addendum to the law shortly after it was put in force. Using a mounted phone to make/receive calls is also legal. Just don't handle the thing.

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#714156 8-Nov-2012 13:51

You could take the attitude that the Policeman was doing his job of trying to keep you and other motorists safe on the roads.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#714160 8-Nov-2012 14:01

KiwiNZ: You could take the attitude that the Policeman was doing his job of trying to keep you and other motorists safe on the roads.

If they really wanted to do something, they would increase the fines and take a tougher line on actuall calling and texting, who are actually 'moving'. There are still a huge number people I still see driving with a phone next to their face (many are realestate agents). Many I suspect see the fine as a small price to pay for the loss of business of not answering the call.

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#714164 8-Nov-2012 14:09

What would or could have happened if OP had stopped his car, and taken the photo from outside his vehicle?

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#714173 8-Nov-2012 14:29

mattwnz:
KiwiNZ: You could take the attitude that the Policeman was doing his job of trying to keep you and other motorists safe on the roads.

If they really wanted to do something, they would increase the fines and take a tougher line on actuall calling and texting, who are actually 'moving'. There are still a huge number people I still see driving with a phone next to their face (many are realestate agents). Many I suspect see the fine as a small price to pay for the loss of business of not answering the call.

That is not up to the Police, the Politicians make the Laws.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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