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#1012323 25-Mar-2014 11:04

KiwiNZ:
My last child at school was circa 2007 although I still have two at Uni

We used to bank school expense money into our kids bank accounts and they managed it

I was referring to things like school fees, camping fees and stuff like that. Our school asks for cheques.

Although , maybe they do allow bank transfers but this has never been offered as a payment method on any claims.

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#1012338 25-Mar-2014 11:23

I still receive cheques for a couple of things, snap a photo of them & deposit them with a banking app. Juxtaposition of old & new bank tech..

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#1012455 25-Mar-2014 13:38

surfisup1000:
KiwiNZ:
My last child at school was circa 2007 although I still have two at Uni

We used to bank school expense money into our kids bank accounts and they managed it

I was referring to things like school fees, camping fees and stuff like that. Our school asks for cheques.

Although , maybe they do allow bank transfers but this has never been offered as a payment method on any claims.

Club trips last over the festival period. I didn't have a cheque book so I had to give them a few hundred in cash so did the others so they end up quite if that had got lost. They didn't provide bank details for online payments.

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#1012459 25-Mar-2014 13:40

surfisup1000: you obviously do not have children at school.

At least, schools seem to be the last hold-out when it comes to cheques.

Cheques still account for the major part of postal donations (as against street appeals) to charities. Most of the older generation also still use cheques to pay their usual household bills.

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#1012482 25-Mar-2014 13:52

Buzz Bumble:

surfisup1000: you obviously do not have children at school.

At least, schools seem to be the last hold-out when it comes to cheques.

Cheques still account for the major part of postal donations (as against street appeals) to charities. Most of the older generation also still use cheques to pay their usual household bills.

What percentage are cheques of the total donations? with postal you can only send a cheque or cash so the percentage of postal is largely irrelevant .

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1012518 25-Mar-2014 14:31

Jas777:
timmmay: Yesterday I sent a small package of clothes from Chiang Mai to Koh Samui, an island way down south. It cost me $1 for the box and $2.5 for express postage. Postage for eBay items from overseas are airways cheap. Nz post is already super expensive imho and I now use them as rarely as possible.

What postal service did you use? State run service?

The standard Thai post office.

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#1012529 25-Mar-2014 15:00

KiwiNZ:
Buzz Bumble:

surfisup1000: you obviously do not have children at school.

At least, schools seem to be the last hold-out when it comes to cheques.

Cheques still account for the major part of postal donations (as against street appeals) to charities. Most of the older generation also still use cheques to pay their usual household bills.

What percentage are cheques of the total donations? with postal you can only send a cheque or cash so the percentage of postal is largely irrelevant .

I work in the finance area for a branch of a charitable non-profit organisation which operates a number of national postal donation campaigns. I was curious around the split of payments for our campaigns so checked what percentages the last campaign had:

Eftpos/Credit Card: 15%
Cash: 1%
Cheque: 75%
Direct Deposit: 6%
Direct Credit: 3%

I also looked into another service we provide. This is via post, walk in, invoice and recently online. While I don't have the online stats available, for our local postal, walk ins and invoices:

Cheque 58%
Cash: 6%
Direct Credit: 6%
Eftpos/Credit Card: 30%

In doing this it confirmed how reliant on the post we are as an organisation. We not only rely on it for our postal services but also for sending out and receiving time sheets, payslips etc. NZ Post has been so unreliable recently we actively encourage people to not post time-sheets if at all possible. However, some of our staff have no internet, no computer, no fax, no smart phone, no scanner, no digital camera, nothing. The only method of sending and receiving documents is the post. Some of them have to come into our office out of the way specifically to hand in their time sheet to be paid, which costs petrol, time etc. Some of our staff live at least 3 hours drive from an office and this is not feasible.

For a direct example of NZ Posts unreliability I was required to send a cheque across town to pre-pay for a service. This "should" take no more than 3 working days. This was eight working days before the deadline. I warned the person to not post it but they said the only way was post. The cheque didn't arrive for 23 working days.

NZ Post is essentially increasing costs, while decreasing services. While we do currently rely on them, I would much rather be rid of them to be quite honest. We are doing everything we can to be rid of them, but in some areas we are stuck.

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#1012533 25-Mar-2014 15:04

That is very interesting, do you have a breakdown of what is corporate cheques and what is general public?

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1012539 25-Mar-2014 15:21

KiwiNZ: That is very interesting, do you have a breakdown of what is corporate cheques and what is general public?

I don't have exact figures but for the donations, I would imagine it would be almost 95 to 100% personal by number of cheques. For the other service, probably 90 to 95% personal cheques.

In general the amount of cheques by corporates is very, very small. Most of our corporate cheques are from trusts, estates, law firms and various funding organisations. We prefer that these are paid by Direct Credit, however if someone wants to give us a cheque, we aren't going to say no.

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#1012635 25-Mar-2014 18:47

KiwiNZ: What percentage are cheques of the total donations? with postal you can only send a cheque or cash so the percentage of postal is largely irrelevant .

There's a also a credit card option on the ones I deal with, and the campaigns are postal only (although the occasional person does phone up and ask to make a direct deposit).

For the street appeals you of course get mostly cash (and most of it as coins), although some appeals have started to use the option of a portable EFTPOS / credit card reader.

littlehead: I work in the finance area for a branch of a charitable non-profit organisation which operates a number of national postal donation campaigns. I was curious around the split of payments for our campaigns so checked what percentages the last campaign had:

Eftpos/Credit Card: 15%
Cash: 1%
Cheque: 75%
Direct Deposit: 6%
Direct Credit: 3%

... For the other service, probably 90 to 95% personal cheques.

Yep, those figure look about the same as what I've been seeing too (there's no direct deposit / credit or EFTPOS in the ones I deal with, so credit card is higher). Most of th cash donations are notes, but sometimes there are coins. Of course, sending cash in the post isn't really allowed.

Some people (here and elsewhere) have complained about NZ Post losing items or being slow to deliver, but it's amazing how stupidly some people post things. Some of the donations arrive as a cheque or $20 note in an envelope that hasn't even been closed properly, let alone sealed!

Then there are other people who send a note saying "take me off the mailing list", but don't bother to actually say who they are. :-\

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#1012702 25-Mar-2014 20:21

I do bank transfers or planned giving only.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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