The only real way Prince Andrew can clear his name is with a court victory

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#2853954 20-Jan-2022 10:33

It's funny how the prospect of serious jail time, or worse for ritch folk jogs their memory and causes them to suddenly become very cooperative.

When the prosecution becomes your best friend you know it's time to find new friendships circles.

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#2869328 16-Feb-2022 07:42

It’s been settled with an admission that Giuffre was a victim of abuse and a donation to her charity for the support of victims of abuse. It appears that there is no personal gain by Giuffre in the settlement although the charity may, or may not, be set up in a way that is beneficial to her.

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#2869351 16-Feb-2022 08:36

Oh but I thought he wanted it all to go to trial! Like he ever had a hope of winning.

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#2869379 16-Feb-2022 08:58

The document submitted to the court informing them of a "settlement in principle" says:

"The parties will file a stipulated dismissal upon Ms. Giuffre's receipt of the settlement (the sum of which is not being disclosed). Prince Andrew intends to make a substantial donation to make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victim's rights."

Two separate sentences, potentially (and quite probably) referring to two separate things.

One thing you can be sure of, the "charitable donation" will be the only one that's ever publicly acknowledged.

Plus we'll never know whether the Queen's money has just bailed out an "alleged" sex offender or how much was potentially paid.

Everything will now be safely swept under the carpet, never to be mentioned again.

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#2869387 16-Feb-2022 09:13

Hopefully a civilised end to a sordid episode.

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#2869410 16-Feb-2022 09:55

His name (and by association, all of the British Royals) will be forever tarnished.

If the allegations are true (which we'll likely never know for sure), I trust this ends that kind of behaviour from an outdated (and quite frankly immoral) institution.

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#2869414 16-Feb-2022 10:06

Handsomedan:

If the allegations are true

i have not to this day found any reason to believe it's not true. i watched the andrew interview.

i can't be th coz i never go upstairs

it can't be me coz i always wear a suit

on that night i was buying pizza

it can't be me coz i can't sweat

... and a couple of years later

it's a body double

next week - it's photoshopped

what next? aliens or the photo printed itself?

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#2869422 16-Feb-2022 10:28

Meanwhile in NZ Sir John Key & his son Max are doing a property development with the brothel keeping Chow brothers. Money has no morals.

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#2869423 16-Feb-2022 10:28

quickymart:

Oh but I thought he wanted it all to go to trial! Like he ever had a hope of winning.

Someone much more senior probably re-oriented his thinking.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2869503 16-Feb-2022 11:09

eracode:

quickymart:

Oh but I thought he wanted it all to go to trial! Like he ever had a hope of winning.

Someone much more senior probably re-oriented his thinking.

I know, right? I almost laughed out loud when I heard him say that he was "determined" to go to court in order to "clear his name" - something that was never, ever going to happen. At least he's avoided making an even bigger fool of himself now.

He's also released a statement: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/prince-andrew-makes-bombshell-statement-after-settling-sex-abuse-case/ATZNPB5WIRX5ISF3TZVRC2QUOA/

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#2869508 16-Feb-2022 11:14

Handsomedan:
His name (and by association, all of the British Royals) will be forever tarnished.

He’s a sleazeball sure but the British Royals aren’t exactly strangers to controversy. Auntie hung out with all sorts of … Bohemian … lifestyle people. Nazi-sympathising great uncle abdicated so he could marry a divorced American. And you can keep going back: you might remember Henry VIII and his slight streak of misogyny.

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#2869557 16-Feb-2022 12:04

eracode:

quickymart:

Oh but I thought he wanted it all to go to trial! Like he ever had a hope of winning.

Someone much more senior probably re-oriented his thinking.

"Dear Andrew,

Unless you want to spend the rest of your life confined to an ‘off-grid’ gillie's cottage out the back of Balmoral, you will make this problem go away before it spoils poor dear Mama's Platinum Jubilee celebrations.

Yrs sincerely,

Charles"

🤣

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#2869565 16-Feb-2022 12:21

SaltyNZ:
Handsomedan:

His name (and by association, all of the British Royals) will be forever tarnished.

He’s a sleazeball sure but the British Royals aren’t exactly strangers to controversy. Auntie hung out with all sorts of … Bohemian … lifestyle people. Nazi-sympathising great uncle abdicated so he could marry a divorced American. And you can keep going back: you might remember Henry VIII and his slight streak of misogyny.

Yeah but all of the previous stuff was excusable as a "different times" cliche.

This one goes beyond making excuses for the behaviour...

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#2869567 16-Feb-2022 12:22

PolicyGuy:
eracode:

Someone much more senior probably re-oriented his thinking.

"Dear Andrew,

Unless you want to spend the rest of your life confined to an ‘off-grid’ gillie's cottage out the back of Balmoral, you will make this problem go away before it spoils poor dear Mama's Platinum Jubilee celebrations.

Yrs sincerely,

Charles"

🤣

Probably more like:

'Andrew Albert Christian Edward, settle this thing at once or you're going to your room without a view.

Your mother'

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#2869571 16-Feb-2022 12:24

Handsomedan:

Yeah but all of the previous stuff was excusable as a "different times" cliche.

This one goes beyond making excuses for the behaviour...

They are excusable now as "different times". But even then they weren't all that excusable. The Nazi-sympathising was very dimly viewed at the time, and the marrying a divorcee was why he had to abdicate. I'm sure Henry got a bit more leeway but his predilection for offing people's heads probably had more to do with it than people actually thinking it was OK.

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