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#3201638 29-Feb-2024 15:44

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I would say a lot more people watch the news at 6 on either channel as opposed to listening to something like The Platform.

How many do it because that is what they have done for the last 40 years only?

What purpose does a scheduled reading of stories fulfil that deserves it to continue to exist in the same way that it did before everyone was carrying a device that could watch a video of events from the other side of the world at any time they chose to?

I was expecting that the rebrand to newshub would be the start of taking away the 6pm talking fest and become more online but it seems that they kept up with the live performance aspect of it instead of making it more relevant to people today.

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#3201643 29-Feb-2024 15:49

alasta:

That's it. I'm switching to Reality Check Radio! 😆

That's even worse! I don't know anyone who listens to that...thing.

Also - Mark Jennings of Newsroom (who used to run TV3's news department for a number of years) takes a look at what's happened with Newshub and how it could be saved:

https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/02/29/a-plan-to-rescue-newshub-on-a-beer-budget/

I did see Sky mentioned as a possible partner somewhere today (TV3 currently produces Prime's evening bulletin) - maybe Sky could take over running TV3's news department and they could pay them to do it on a sort of lease agreement?

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#3201647 29-Feb-2024 15:54

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quickymart:

I would say a lot more people watch the news at 6 on either channel as opposed to listening to something like The Platform.

How many do it because that is what they have done for the last 40 years only?

There are still quite a few Sky boxes out there rolling over their subscription every month, despite most of its content being available online, because people don't know any differently or want to change.

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#3201650 29-Feb-2024 16:00

quickymart:

heavenlywild:

The Platform

I would say a lot more people watch the news at 6 on either channel as opposed to listening to something like The Platform.

You know what I meant.

Plus those watching the TV news are unlikely the demographic companies want to target with their advertising... Unless they are in aged care etc. Yes I'm generalising but again just to get to the point.

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#3201651 29-Feb-2024 16:01

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There are many players out there - The Platform

Oh my $deity, no. Just no.

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#3201654 29-Feb-2024 16:06

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I did see Sky mentioned as a possible partner somewhere today (TV3 currently produces Prime's evening bulletin) - maybe Sky could take over running TV3's news department and they could pay them to do it on a sort of lease agreement?

No, there's no way that will happen. A couple of years ago there were rumours about Sky potentially buying Mediaworks, and they will be thanking their lucky stars that they didn't go through with it. Sky will stick to their core business, whatever that is.

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#3201662 29-Feb-2024 16:14

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Sky will stick to their core business, whatever that is.

Renting out obsolete media players and a third tier streaming platform.

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#3201665 29-Feb-2024 16:25

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heavenlywild:

There are many players out there - The Platform

Oh my $deity, no. Just no.

Sorry just had it in my head.

Let me add a few more. RNZ, Sky News, NZ Herald, Stuff... oh no no... doesn't quite bring the right vibes either 😅

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#3201683 29-Feb-2024 16:38

heavenlywild:

Sorry just had it in my head.

Let me add a few more. RNZ, Sky News, NZ Herald, Stuff... oh no no... doesn't quite bring the right vibes either 😅

The thing is that there are alternatives. The doomsday crowd are focused on one outlet closing because they are one of 2 options that operate a service in a dying market.

I don't give a crap if the article I read is on newshubs site, stuffs site, RNZ, the herald or wherever. Its all just news articles.

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#3201699 29-Feb-2024 17:19

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MikeB4:

While I feel for the folks that are losing their livelihoods I don't agree with the calls for the government to bail out the operation. Warner Bros Discovery has assets of circa $US120billion and net assets circa $US40billion, its annual revenue is circa $US40billion. We have far more pressing issues to spend tax payer money on such as our ailing heath, education and infrastructure for starters.

This. We can't just let governments give money away to private companies just because they want money.

Unless, of course, it's a libertarian government. Oh, wait a minute.

Didn't they give them money last time during Covid when they ran into problems? They have bailed out companies like Air NZ before (PM is the ex CEO) due to it being needed for the national good. The fact is that good strong media is needed for democracy and to keep politicians honest, so this potentially make the media a lot weaker. I don't think they should bail them out just because people will lose their jobs, but I do think funding is needed for the national good, and making sure the public is well informed of what is happening, and questioning the government.

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#3201707 29-Feb-2024 17:33

The trouble with the government propping up the media is encapsulated in this image.

“We’ve arranged a society based on science and technology, in which nobody understands anything about science technology. Carl Sagan 1996

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#3201711 29-Feb-2024 17:46

So don't do anything because you can't do the perfect thing?

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#3201751 29-Feb-2024 19:12

mattwnz:

Didn't they give them money last time during Covid when they ran into problems? They have bailed out companies like Air NZ before (PM is the ex CEO) due to it being needed for the national good. The fact is that good strong media is needed for democracy and to keep politicians honest, so this potentially make the media a lot weaker. I don't think they should bail them out just because people will lose their jobs, but I do think funding is needed for the national good, and making sure the public is well informed of what is happening, and questioning the government.

If by "they" you mean the "very not libertarian government" then yes.

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#3201754 29-Feb-2024 19:20

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MikeB4:

Geektastic: I can’t think of anything that happens here that many world news organisations would find it terribly necessary to pay to report.

Surely the A&P shows😁

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#3201803 29-Feb-2024 21:24

Dingbatt:

The trouble with the government propping up the media is encapsulated in this image.

That is the perception by a lot, that is why the money needs to be administered by something like NZ on air which already exists. NZ did used to have a very unpopular license fee until the government decided to fund it directly , so increased their tax take to cover this. But as so many people now consumer overseas media from overseas corporations, I don't think a license fee would be possible anymore, and NZ doesn't have anything like the BBC in place. They wanted to merge RNZ and TVNZ into a BBC like corporation, but that failed badly and wasted a lot of taxpayer money and that was very recent.

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