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K8Toledo

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#3266532 31-Jul-2024 11:12

mudguard:

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I have friends who moved to the Peninsula because it was the only place in Auckland they could afford to buy. People live where they can afford these days. Yes, ideally we'd live close to where we work but not everyone can live in the inner-city suburbs.

Just saying "It's always been hard to commute from here so let's ignore the growing population"

I agree, housing has been/is cheaper there. However I get tired of nimbyism, oh it's too full, no more development etc up that way. Reports done on Penlink showed the traffic movements didn't justify multiple lanes even with future populations. Combine that with WFH and there may be fewer commuters. I don't know. I have friends who bought recently and complain about the commute and I just shrug my shoulders. Penlink will help an aspect of it, but as I mentioned before, I wonder if there will be some unintended consequences, IE Orewa/Red Beach commuters suddenly coming down the Peninsula to get onto Penlink instead of Silverdale in the morning etc.

The housing crisis pushed many Aucklanders to Mangawhai, and while 90Km is a fair distance to commute I guess cheaper housing up here is worth the drive.

Even the extension to Warkworth has made a great difference.

tweake

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#3266612 31-Jul-2024 14:04

K8Toledo:

The housing crisis pushed many Aucklanders to Mangawhai, and while 90Km is a fair distance to commute I guess cheaper housing up here is worth the drive.

Even the extension to Warkworth has made a great difference.

mangawhai is absolutely booming. kaiprara was one of the fastest growing regions in nz not long back. give it a few years its going to be nothing but houses on the east coast from auckland to whangerai.

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#3268768 6-Aug-2024 17:20

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“We were halfway through building our house when NZTA flew in with two options, both of which went through our house. “There are 130 rateable properties in our area now, and they want to smash a highway through it.

this is one of the big problems. the area is developing fast which means upsetting a lot more land owners and the cost of buying the properties goes way up.

The group developed its own alternative route (called Option F) which follows the Brynderwyns and uses viaducting to get over more difficult parts of the terrain.

The Regional Transport Committee (RTC) also developed an alternative route (called Option 4) that accesses the eastern side of the Brynderwyns.

i don't recall a option F. however the eastern route (option 4) absolutely sucked.

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#3269931 9-Aug-2024 15:36

tweake:

The group developed its own alternative route (called Option F) which follows the Brynderwyns and uses viaducting to get over more difficult parts of the terrain.

i don't recall a option F. however the eastern route (option 4) absolutely sucked.

My understanding of this idea was a viaduct starting at the end of the south-bound passing lane, about a kilometre north of the Maungaturoto turnoff. This viaduct would supposedly go right to the top of the hills, and meet up with the road up there.

Given the scale of what would be involved (and the underlying geotechnical challenges), I can't ever see it happening, but it would be pretty impressive if it did.

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#3269944 9-Aug-2024 16:11

Gurezaemon:

tweake:

The group developed its own alternative route (called Option F) which follows the Brynderwyns and uses viaducting to get over more difficult parts of the terrain.

i don't recall a option F. however the eastern route (option 4) absolutely sucked.

My understanding of this idea was a viaduct starting at the end of the south-bound passing lane, about a kilometre north of the Maungaturoto turnoff. This viaduct would supposedly go right to the top of the hills, and meet up with the road up there.

Given the scale of what would be involved (and the underlying geotechnical challenges), I can't ever see it happening, but it would be pretty impressive if it did.

its about as useful as the tunnel idea. extremely steep road with an massively expensive amount of road works and it still leaves several key fail points in place. a very expensive and unworkable idea.

most of it is just nimby because the cheap workable solution goes through a few rural subdivisions. with the possibility of it going through, those people can't sell their properties for those untaxed capital gains kiwis love so much.

mudguard

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#3269945 9-Aug-2024 16:16

K8Toledo:

The housing crisis pushed many Aucklanders to Mangawhai, and while 90Km is a fair distance to commute I guess cheaper housing up here is worth the drive.

Even the extension to Warkworth has made a great difference.

As I pointed out on the previous page, if the maths stacks up on that commute (IE fuel and time cost) vs living elsewhere then that's fine. But it's a decent addition to the work week.

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