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#3475386 30-Mar-2026 09:28

cddt: We produce vast quantities of food today, but without continuity of the relevant inputs (fuel and machinery), the transition to pre-industrial farming would be extremely traumatic (and I do not mean psychologically). If fuel and spare parts were cut off tomorrow, we would not be able to continue to grow enough food for our population in the short to medium term. In the long term, yes it would be feasible, but how do you get to that point if you do not have sufficient food in the short term and also avoid a complete breakdown of society?

The government would be prioritising (and ordering manufacture of) fuel resources for essential services. Food production and food logistics is obviously one of those. There would be a large economic reorganization similar to a war economy.

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#3475388 30-Mar-2026 09:35

gzt: The government would be prioritising (and ordering manufacture of) fuel resources for essential services. Food production and food logistics is obviously one of those. There would be a large economic reorganization similar to a war economy.

Wind turbines, photovoltaic systems, and electric trucks would certainly be useful for this. Do we have enough of them?

(I deliberately say "we" because we would surely face the same problems, even though I don't live in New Zealand).

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#3475390 30-Mar-2026 09:44

In particularly extreme circumstances NZ would be relying again on rail transport for the backbone and distribution from there.

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#3475429 30-Mar-2026 10:52

If one only watched TVNZ news and read Stuff it would explain the naivety and blind faith of most towards this crisis. Glass half full is not within our control any more and soon our lives may change considerably, thus the need to prepare and plan.

Since knowledge is power and prepping goes hand in hand with political effects, the following analysis is both astute and relevant to what’s driving this war and it’s nowhere near the public perception. This substack article connected the dots of Greenland and Venezuela etc and showed deliberate method in the madness involved. To précis the article, the war is not ending any time soon.

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#3475448 30-Mar-2026 11:37

Tinkerisk:

gzt: The government would be prioritising (and ordering manufacture of) fuel resources for essential services. Food production and food logistics is obviously one of those. There would be a large economic reorganization similar to a war economy.

Wind turbines, photovoltaic systems, and electric trucks would certainly be useful for this. Do we have enough of them?

(I deliberately say "we" because we would surely face the same problems, even though I don't live in New Zealand).

If it came to it I would — if in charge— seize private electric vehicles.

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#3475609 30-Mar-2026 15:03

I heard a lot of this end of the world is nigh BS during the 70/80s fuel crisis based around the exact same scenario as now and yet here we are. We survived. The examples of the great depression are not really relevant now as the world financial and banking sectors are very different compared to the 1930's and the later financial hiccups. Welfare is more robust than at the time of the depression.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3475614 30-Mar-2026 15:08

MikeB4:

The examples of the great depression are not really relevant now as the world financial and banking sectors are very different compared to the 1930's and the later financial hiccups. Welfare is more robust than at the time of the depression.

Your points are reasonable but I still view the world in a circular prisim. What has happened before will happen again and there is nothing new under the sun.

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#3475633 30-Mar-2026 15:39

MikeB4:

I heard a lot of this end of the world is nigh BS during the 70/80s fuel crisis based around the exact same scenario as now and yet here we are. We survived. The examples of the great depression are not really relevant now as the world financial and banking sectors are very different compared to the 1930's and the later financial hiccups. Welfare is more robust than at the time of the depression.

The world is very different, but far more dependent on energy as a commodity. And we import most of it.

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#3475681 30-Mar-2026 17:06

JayADee:

Tinkerisk:

Wind turbines, photovoltaic systems, and electric trucks would certainly be useful for this. Do we have enough of them?

(I deliberately say "we" because we would surely face the same problems, even though I don't live in New Zealand).

If it came to it I would — if in charge— seize private electric vehicles.

That would certainly happen; the common good always takes precedence over self-interest. The Nazis confiscated the taxi along with my father's uncle, who drove it as a taxi service, and assigned him to driving duties. He was paid for the service but had no choice. The car was lost to any "war-essential services." At some point, it "accidentally" caught fire while he was driving it. They wanted to prosecute him for it, but it never came to that. 😁

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#3475682 30-Mar-2026 17:07

cddt:

The world is very different, but far more dependent on energy as a commodity. And we import most of it.

Actually, we generate most of it.

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#3475686 30-Mar-2026 17:20

Rikkitic:

cddt:

The world is very different, but far more dependent on energy as a commodity. And we import most of it.

Actually, we generate most of it.

Certainly no kerosene for cargo planes and heavy fuel oil for container ships for the import of all goods that you do not produce yourselves.

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#3475695 30-Mar-2026 17:41

Tinkerisk:

Certainly no kerosene for cargo planes and heavy fuel oil for container ships for the import of all goods that you do not produce yourselves.

The quote was about energy, not fuel. We generate most of ours.

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#3475702 30-Mar-2026 18:05

Rikkitic:

Tinkerisk:

Certainly no kerosene for cargo planes and heavy fuel oil for container ships for the import of all goods that you do not produce yourselves.

The quote was about energy, not fuel. We generate most of ours.

Sure. But what good is energy if you can't transform it into the form required by the end device that's supposed to deliver the power?

That's why I'm asking about available e-trucks for last-mile delivery (for example, trainload distribution). Are you already building fully electric e-trucks as serial standard, like the Chinese or like Actros (Mercedes) here in Germany? Or do you plan to transport the pallets using private or confiscated Teslas?

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#3475722 30-Mar-2026 19:14

Tinkerisk:

Sure. But what good is energy if you can't transform it into the form required by the end device that's supposed to deliver the power?

That's why I'm asking about available e-trucks for last-mile delivery (for example, trainload distribution). Are you already building fully electric e-trucks as serial standard, like the Chinese or like Actros (Mercedes) here in Germany? Or do you plan to transport the pallets using private or confiscated Teslas?

Different issues. I was responding to the energy comment, not entering the fuel debate.

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#3475729 30-Mar-2026 19:43

Rikkitic:

Different issues. I was responding to the energy comment, not entering the fuel debate.

If this fact solves the actual problem? Go for it! 😎

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