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MikeB4

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#390969 12-Oct-2010 14:45

dman:
Kyanar: I don't understand how anyone can defend the man. Yes, he mucked up her name but then he was told how it's meant to be pronounced, and persists in pronouncing it incorrectly. I cannot see how you can not consider that offensive. The reality is, he intentionally offends people - an article just the other day compiled a timeline of offenses and there are -a lot-.

For a country that's only just gotten over segregation, this place is awfully racist.

I've read that the way Paul Henry pronounced it IS the correct way! And claiming that "other" way is the so called correct way is just politically correct B.S. stirring to create trouble.

Even though I do not for a second think Paul Henry is being racist, but even if he is.... we're missing a much much bigger point here:

Freedom of speech!

Even racist should be allowed to say what they wish. No matter how strongly I might disagree with a person's statements, I'll still stand up for their right to say it. As to put it simply, we shouldn't meddle with what other people should or shouldn't be allowed to do.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with another and to voice that disagreement. It does not allow them to do so by insult and demeaning them.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with the views of a minority, it does not allow them to use physical features or any other characteristics or beliefs as a means of insult.

Just because someone has freedom of speech does not mean that everyone has to hear their freedom of speech.

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#390974 12-Oct-2010 14:53

While I was looking for the moustache T Shirt on Mr Vintage, I found this, it may have already been put up on GZ somewhere if so here it is again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu1eWIGo-XI&feature=player_embedded

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#391012 12-Oct-2010 16:24

LookingUp: PS - ever wonder why Aussie are winning all the medals? They don't "participate", they stomp on whoever they need to to WIN.

Well said, couldn't agree with you more.

Us Kiwis need to take on a more ruthless streak to win - win medals, win television views, win newspaper headlines etc etc.

Paul Henry was popular because he spoke his mind. Sure, like most of us agree, we don't necessarily agree with everything he has said. However, at least he was passionate about what he was doing and was good at it.

He apologised... what more can he do? I hope TV3 hires him before he leaves the country and another talent is lost.

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#391015 12-Oct-2010 16:29

KiwiNZ:
dman:
Kyanar: I don't understand how anyone can defend the man. Yes, he mucked up her name but then he was told how it's meant to be pronounced, and persists in pronouncing it incorrectly. I cannot see how you can not consider that offensive. The reality is, he intentionally offends people - an article just the other day compiled a timeline of offenses and there are -a lot-.

For a country that's only just gotten over segregation, this place is awfully racist.

I've read that the way Paul Henry pronounced it IS the correct way! And claiming that "other" way is the so called correct way is just politically correct B.S. stirring to create trouble.

Even though I do not for a second think Paul Henry is being racist, but even if he is.... we're missing a much much bigger point here:

Freedom of speech!

Even racist should be allowed to say what they wish. No matter how strongly I might disagree with a person's statements, I'll still stand up for their right to say it. As to put it simply, we shouldn't meddle with what other people should or shouldn't be allowed to do.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with another and to voice that disagreement. It does not allow them to do so by insult and demeaning them.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with the views of a minority, it does not allow them to use physical features or any other characteristics or beliefs as a means of insult.

Just because someone has freedom of speech does not mean that everyone has to hear their freedom of speech.

Looks like you and I have different definition of "Freedom of Speech", I think it means exactly what says it is: freedom.

Which means not adding on any restrictions like you just did, then it stops being freedom.

Think about it, if you do what you say you're walking smack bang into the middle of mine field. Just one example: How are you going to define what is an "insult"??

I personally find your username VERY insulting, seriously why are you naming yourself after an animal. Even worse, a bird which can't even fly!!! Gah. I hate it when people encourage such a degrading term for my people. You should be ashamed of yourself & get your profile deleted off this site. I'm going to protest to the NZ Government that such a racist site is being hosted on servers in NZ.

(seriously now however: I'm joking around, I love being called a Kiwi! No offence taken

)

https://www.youtube.com/c/SoundSpeeding

GeekGuy

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#391189 13-Oct-2010 09:31

Saw this on stuff.co.nz thought it was interesting after the PH incidents

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4226833/Indian-girl-not-Indian-enough

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#391235 13-Oct-2010 10:45

GeekGuy: Saw this on stuff.co.nz thought it was interesting after the PH incidents

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4226833/Indian-girl-not-Indian-enough

Yeah it is interesting, I still think the GG call was the worst of his though. The rest I can live with but come on, it's irresponsible for him to be saying things like that on national TV especially when it was so blatantly wrong

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#391271 13-Oct-2010 11:40

this whole thing is really getting on my last nerve, catalyzed with the sh*t happening in my own country, culminating with this tweet

paulhenryPR Paul Henry
Now here's someone who looks like a New Zealander: http://ow.ly/2Su4f

...give it a rest!!

...also, everyone is allowed to say anything as long it's not hurting or endangering my liberty and freedom... do the math- who is allowed to say what and when...?

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#391280 13-Oct-2010 11:56

dman:
KiwiNZ:
dman:
Kyanar: I don't understand how anyone can defend the man. Yes, he mucked up her name but then he was told how it's meant to be pronounced, and persists in pronouncing it incorrectly. I cannot see how you can not consider that offensive. The reality is, he intentionally offends people - an article just the other day compiled a timeline of offenses and there are -a lot-.

For a country that's only just gotten over segregation, this place is awfully racist.

I've read that the way Paul Henry pronounced it IS the correct way! And claiming that "other" way is the so called correct way is just politically correct B.S. stirring to create trouble.

Even though I do not for a second think Paul Henry is being racist, but even if he is.... we're missing a much much bigger point here:

Freedom of speech!

Even racist should be allowed to say what they wish. No matter how strongly I might disagree with a person's statements, I'll still stand up for their right to say it. As to put it simply, we shouldn't meddle with what other people should or shouldn't be allowed to do.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with another and to voice that disagreement. It does not allow them to do so by insult and demeaning them.

Freedom of speech allows for someone to disagree with the views of a minority, it does not allow them to use physical features or any other characteristics or beliefs as a means of insult.

Just because someone has freedom of speech does not mean that everyone has to hear their freedom of speech.

Looks like you and I have different definition of "Freedom of Speech", I think it means exactly what says it is: freedom.

Which means not adding on any restrictions like you just did, then it stops being freedom.

Think about it, if you do what you say you're walking smack bang into the middle of mine field. Just one example: How are you going to define what is an "insult"??

I personally find your username VERY insulting, seriously why are you naming yourself after an animal. Even worse, a bird which can't even fly!!! Gah. I hate it when people encourage such a degrading term for my people. You should be ashamed of yourself & get your profile deleted off this site. I'm going to protest to the NZ Government that such a racist site is being hosted on servers in NZ.

(seriously now however: I'm joking around, I love being called a Kiwi! No offence taken )

By your definition verbally insulting and text bullying is OK because that is Freedom of speech and must not be restricted.

Freedom of speech comes with responsibilities and does not exclude common human decencies and good manners. Also Freedom of speech does over ride other laws and rules of society.

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#391314 13-Oct-2010 13:09

dman: Looks like you and I have different definition of "Freedom of Speech", I think it means exactly what says it is: freedom.

Which means not adding on any restrictions like you just did, then it stops being freedom.

Think about it, if you do what you say you're walking smack bang into the middle of mine field. Just one example: How are you going to define what is an "insult"??

I personally find your username VERY insulting, seriously why are you naming yourself after an animal. Even worse, a bird which can't even fly!!! Gah. I hate it when people encourage such a degrading term for my people. You should be ashamed of yourself & get your profile deleted off this site. I'm going to protest to the NZ Government that such a racist site is being hosted on servers in NZ.

Your rights end where my rights begin. As is as this. Your Freedom of Speech ends when you start attacking people instead of attacking ideas. Very different.

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#391436 13-Oct-2010 17:45

freitasm:
dman: Looks like you and I have different definition of "Freedom of Speech", I think it means exactly what says it is: freedom.

Which means not adding on any restrictions like you just did, then it stops being freedom.

Think about it, if you do what you say you're walking smack bang into the middle of mine field. Just one example: How are you going to define what is an "insult"??

I personally find your username VERY insulting, seriously why are you naming yourself after an animal. Even worse, a bird which can't even fly!!! Gah. I hate it when people encourage such a degrading term for my people. You should be ashamed of yourself & get your profile deleted off this site. I'm going to protest to the NZ Government that such a racist site is being hosted on servers in NZ.

Your rights end where my rights begin. As is as this. Your Freedom of Speech ends when you start attacking people instead of attacking ideas. Very different.

I fully agree!!

"Your rights end where my rights begin".

The only difference is the direction we're approaching this from, which means I take an expansive approach to what personal rights I have myself while you take a narrow view.

I feel a person should be free to act to the maximum extent, while you're much more willing to cut each person's rights down to a narrower section of what they may or may not do.

https://www.youtube.com/c/SoundSpeeding

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#391724 14-Oct-2010 11:40

gutted!

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#391952 14-Oct-2010 20:12

I can't believe he's gone, he was one of the reasons why I watched breakfast... and Pippa Wetzel, who could replace those two?

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