Time for nuclear power in NZ?

Forums › Off topic › Time for nuclear power in NZ?

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8

17942 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1806031 24-Jun-2017 12:04

Just pack the waste in concrete and sell it to the Chinese to dispose of. Out of sight, out of mind. Or dump it in the Mariana Trench.

MikeB4

18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#1806036 24-Jun-2017 12:27

Geektastic:
Just pack the waste in concrete and sell it to the Chinese to dispose of. Out of sight, out of mind. Or dump it in the Mariana Trench.

Nothing dumped is "out of sight out of mind", there is an old saying in old Hutt Valley "Do not pee in your own pool". Dumping nuclear waste anywhere on Earth is peeing in our own pool.

surfisup1000

5288 posts

Uber Geek

#1806037 24-Jun-2017 12:52

MikeB4:
Geektastic:

Just pack the waste in concrete and sell it to the Chinese to dispose of. Out of sight, out of mind. Or dump it in the Mariana Trench.

Nothing dumped is "out of sight out of mind", there is an old saying in old Hutt Valley "Do not pee in your own pool". Dumping nuclear waste anywhere on Earth is peeing in our own pool.

I gathered he was joking :)

Geektastic

17942 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1806039 24-Jun-2017 13:07

surfisup1000:

MikeB4:
Geektastic:

Just pack the waste in concrete and sell it to the Chinese to dispose of. Out of sight, out of mind. Or dump it in the Mariana Trench.

Nothing dumped is "out of sight out of mind", there is an old saying in old Hutt Valley "Do not pee in your own pool". Dumping nuclear waste anywhere on Earth is peeing in our own pool.

I gathered he was joking :)

Slightly.

There's already heaps of waste in the ocean - adding a relatively small part from one or two reactors here wouldn't materially change any detrimental effect from that. Also, sure that the Chinese would happily take it off our hands. Or perhaps the Japanese are more acceptable - they must have disposal expertise.

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1806042 24-Jun-2017 13:38

There's already heaps of waste in the ocean. Whatever you add won't make any difference. But whatever you eat is the result of what everyone else who thinks the way you do has added. Enjoy your lead, mercury and styrofoam fish.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

DarthKermit

5346 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1806052 24-Jun-2017 13:46

^^^ and many people would like to see us colonise other planets. For those planets' sake, I'd prefer we become extinct and not spread, even if the technology was invented.

surfisup1000

5288 posts

Uber Geek

#1806069 24-Jun-2017 14:39

Rikkitic:

There's already heaps of waste in the ocean. Whatever you add won't make any difference. But whatever you eat is the result of what everyone else who thinks the way you do has added. Enjoy your lead, mercury and styrofoam fish.

So you don't care if they dump nuclear waste into the ocean?

surfisup1000

5288 posts

Uber Geek

#1806070 24-Jun-2017 14:40

DarthKermit:

^^^ and many people would like to see us colonise other planets. For those planets' sake, I'd prefer we become extinct and not spread, even if the technology was invented.

Unsure why you'd want humans to become extinct. Given your convictions, I guess you will not be having children.

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1806095 24-Jun-2017 15:54

surfisup1000:

Rikkitic:

There's already heaps of waste in the ocean. Whatever you add won't make any difference. But whatever you eat is the result of what everyone else who thinks the way you do has added. Enjoy your lead, mercury and styrofoam fish.

So you don't care if they dump nuclear waste into the ocean?

I was satirising Geektastic's comment. I care about everything they dump into the ocean.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1806096 24-Jun-2017 15:56

surfisup1000:

DarthKermit:

^^^ and many people would like to see us colonise other planets. For those planets' sake, I'd prefer we become extinct and not spread, even if the technology was invented.

Unsure why you'd want humans to become extinct. Given your convictions, I guess you will not be having children.

On the basis of the way humans have treated this planet up to now, there is a good argument to be made for extinction. It is not exactly as if we have earned our right to exist here.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

DarthKermit

5346 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1806115 24-Jun-2017 17:10

surfisup1000:

DarthKermit:

^^^ and many people would like to see us colonise other planets. For those planets' sake, I'd prefer we become extinct and not spread, even if the technology was invented.

Unsure why you'd want humans to become extinct. Given your convictions, I guess you will not be having children.

Because we have done nothing good to this planet (that I can think of). Each time we've spread from one continent to the next, we've destroyed those areas for our own selfish reasons. If we colonised other planets, we'd do the exact same. And no, I've never wanted children. The world is already vastly over populated.

Geektastic

17942 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1806277 24-Jun-2017 23:48

Rikkitic:

surfisup1000:

DarthKermit:

^^^ and many people would like to see us colonise other planets. For those planets' sake, I'd prefer we become extinct and not spread, even if the technology was invented.

Unsure why you'd want humans to become extinct. Given your convictions, I guess you will not be having children.

On the basis of the way humans have treated this planet up to now, there is a good argument to be made for extinction. It is not exactly as if we have earned our right to exist here.

We don't need to. We own the planet. We can do what we like with it, good or bad.

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1806279 25-Jun-2017 00:05

Actually, the micro-organisms own the planet. We will get our due.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

DarthKermit

5346 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1806287 25-Jun-2017 02:27

Geektastic:

We don't need to. We own the planet. We can do what we like with it, good or bad.

If a natural disaster (such as a very large earthquake) comes along and totally destroys your house and everything you own, I suggest that you tell the planet "hey, I owned all of that!"

MikeAqua

7773 posts

Uber Geek

#1806776 26-Jun-2017 09:45

Rikkitic:

2) Wood burners with wetbacks. We live in an old farmhouse in the country and have no heating bill at all since our fuel comes from the surrounding countryside. The wetback also heats most of our hot water so we don't use much power for that. The question, of course, is what our carbon footprint is from burning all that wood all winter.

These are fantastic for those in the right place. I grew up on a farm with a plantation of firewood gum. They re-grow from the stump if felled correctly. The gums also stabilised hills that were erosion prone.

We needed about 1 acre of trees to be able to harvest enough wood and it took five years for the plantation to mature sufficiently to meet our needs. If we had to pay for that wood to be cut, split, stored and transported any real distance it would have been cheaper to use electricity.

I can't see it being an economic solution for most households.

Mike

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8