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  #1956706 14-Feb-2018 06:29
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Came in here for videos of sweet justice being swiftly served upon thieving mongrels... ITT people trying to justify seriously hurting or killing other humans for stealing something rather insignificant compared to another humans life.

With mixed emotions I can say this thread has delivered but in other ways.



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  #1956727 14-Feb-2018 08:30
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JimmyH: Coming back on topic, I would have no problem using bait tactics to catch thieves. Personally, I would feel no compulsion to seal a car just because it was unlocked with the keys in, or similar, and I doubt that such tactics somehow convert law abiding people into crooks. I have no issues with using those tactics to catch them.

Professional car thieves do not spend any time looking around for cars with keys in them.

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  #1957056 14-Feb-2018 13:35
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JimmyH:

 

MikeAqua:

 

I don't agree with robberies and I feel sorry for the victims.  But ... there is no compulsion to sell tobacco products.

 

 

No, but so what? There is no compulsion for a jeweler to sell diamonds, but would you qualify an expressuin of sympathy for a violently robbed jeweler with an inference that it's somehow their fault for having a "wrong" business, or that they should give up their business in response to being robbed? What about a liquor store owner - there is no "compulsion" to sell alcohol.

 

In my view, retailers going about their lawful business are being aggressively and violently robbed, and as such they are deserving of the protection of the law. Equally. All of them. Not just those with businesses you may or may not morally approve of.

 

 

Your quote truncates my post which can be summarised as: If you choose to sell tobacco in small retail premise then ... given the associated risk of violent robbery, you should have adequate safety measures in place.

 

I agree that people operating lawful businesses should be free from the threat of attack.  They aren't.  Therefore they have legal obligations to have security measures in place for safety purposes.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #2776056 10-Sep-2021 14:21
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I hear that package and mail theft is way up in Auckland.

Apparently the mailbox thieves man-handled envelopes looking for cards, bank cards, credit cards, ...



A trial camera start at $70 delivered on Trademe.

Better ones have "black" LEDS, which are infra-red night-vision. They glow a very dim red at night, but not too noticeable.

A word of warning: always check what battery they use. the cheapest don't include batteries, plus the batteries they do use may be disposable and unusual batteries.

With package theft, these "Ring" products and similar will help catch some thieves, even at night.

Very important: Ring rely on a good wireless connection. The "wired" one is only using wires for power, not wired Ethernet. Also it must be the older 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n standard, preferable wired into primary Internet router. If you have only 5GHz wireless at home, it won't work. Lastly you may have to open up specific network ports to get it to work.

Ring Spotlight Cam Wired, Harvey Norman $379

Ring Spotlight Cam Battery PBTech $268

For the wired one, according to the NZ Electricity Act 1992, you are allowed to do yourself. However, you must own and live in the property.





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