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  #2696175 21-Apr-2021 16:32
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Rikkitic:

 

Considerate smokers pull the butts apart to disperse the remaining tobacco and put anything else in their pocket until they can dispose of it properly. 

 

 

I have literally seen this one time in my entire life. Versus the hundreds, if not thousands of times I've seen butts dropped on the ground, in nearby gardens or dropped into drains.

 

 

 

 

Yay for the one time! Those who don't do this should be admonished. It simply doesn't occur to most. Once they are made aware of it, their behaviour may change. 

 

 





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  #2696176 21-Apr-2021 16:33
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My point is that smokers have been demonised by the anti-smoking brigade. Not all of them fit the anti-social stereotype.

 

 

Good example of this: I was sitting at the bus stop some time ago with a heavily-tattooed guy sitting at the other end of the bench. He came up and asked if I'd mind swapping places with him since he was about to have a cigarette and the swapped place would be downwind of me. Very decent of him.

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  #2696177 21-Apr-2021 16:33
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i have seen more smokes flicked out of cars and on the street not even extinguished than i have ever seen what you describe.

 

 

Not claiming otherwise. Just saying not everyone does that.

 

 





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  #2696182 21-Apr-2021 16:50
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This headline:

 

"Coronavirus: People behind Wellington COVID-19 'conspiracy' pamphlets could face charges"

 

From: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/04/coronavirus-people-behind-wellington-covid-19-conspiracy-pamphlets-could-face-charges.html

 

Yeah Right! And if they did face charges (Unlikely given our softly softly approach so far, I bet that there would no "real" penalty dished out! 


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  #2696183 21-Apr-2021 16:53
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Once we are smoke free, I wonder when they will start on fast food. We have one of the highest rates of obesity in the world, and it is well-established that being overweight causes type 2 diabetes and is a preventable cause of illness and death. Just like tobacco! I think there is also scientific evidence that fast food is addictive. Just like smoking.

 

 

 

 





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  #2696190 21-Apr-2021 17:08
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Rikkitic:

 

Once we are smoke free, I wonder when they will start on fast food. 

 

 

You probably just mean 'food'. There's a wide variety of cr*p sold as 'food' that unfortunately is cheaper than actual food.

 

The parallel of an athlete standing up for sugary breakfast cereal was the doctor telling you smoking is good for you.





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  #2696192 21-Apr-2021 17:11
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msukiwi:

This headline:

 

"Coronavirus: People behind Wellington COVID-19 'conspiracy' pamphlets could face charges"

 

From: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/04/coronavirus-people-behind-wellington-covid-19-conspiracy-pamphlets-could-face-charges.html

 

 

I links, eventually, to this interesting study, The impact of COVID-19-related changes in media consumption on public knowledge, which contains the unsurprising result that:

 

 

Those who selected government health websites as their most trusted source were more likely to answer COVID-19 questions correctly than those who selected other internet news sources or television news. Those who used Facebook as an additional source of news in any way were less likely to answer COVID-19 questions correctly than those who did not.

 

 

In other words Fecebook is a source of negative knowledge about the topic - it actually makes you dumber if you use it for information.

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  #2696199 21-Apr-2021 17:15
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Rikkitic:

I think there is also scientific evidence that fast food is addictive. Just like smoking.

 

 

Not specifically fast food, but specifically sugar, salt, and fat. The "food" industry has for many years employed nutritionists to tell them how to optimally load their "food" with this stuff to ensure maximum consumer craving for it. Fast food is just one particular example of tuning for minimum cost, so minimum nutritional content, but maximum consumer craving for it, so maximum sugar and/or salt and/or fat.

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  #2696207 21-Apr-2021 17:33
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neb:
Rikkitic:

 

I think there is also scientific evidence that fast food is addictive. Just like smoking.

 

Not specifically fast food, but specifically sugar, salt, and fat. The "food" industry has for many years employed nutritionists to tell them how to optimally load their "food" with this stuff to ensure maximum consumer craving for it. Fast food is just one particular example of tuning for minimum cost, so minimum nutritional content, but maximum consumer craving for it, so maximum sugar and/or salt and/or fat.

 

The challenge about taking on this risk to public health is along the same lines as 'I only have a couple of beers a week so why ban alcohol (a poison according to WHO)', cue arguments about 'there's no junk food. just junk diets' etc.

 

I'd be in favour of the traffic light system just to get the ball rolling.

 

And the reason this diatribe belongs in this thread?

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/diabetes-a-1-billion-timebomb/6RQC3PPWO4ES3BZAEEN64V3H5Y/#:~:text=DIABETES%20AT%20A%20GLANCE,have%20diabetes%20without%20knowing%20it.

 

Paying for treatment of diabetes, a largely preventable conditions, is sooo annoying.

 

 





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  #2696232 21-Apr-2021 19:18
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neb: Not specifically fast food, but specifically sugar, salt, and fat.

 

 

And those are exactly the ingredients that make food delicious. Try not using butter, olive oil, salt, bacon and see how things get tasteless pretty quick.





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  #2696238 21-Apr-2021 19:39
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neb: Not specifically fast food, but specifically sugar, salt, and fat.

 

 

And those are exactly the ingredients that make food delicious. Try not using butter, olive oil, salt, bacon and see how things get tasteless pretty quick.

 

 

There's a difference between adding enough salt to season it and maximising the salt load to maximise the addiction potential... same with sugar, look at many foods marketed to children, which technically are confectionary rather than food.

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  #2696530 22-Apr-2021 09:51
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neb:

 

freitasm:

 

And those are exactly the ingredients that make food delicious. Try not using butter, olive oil, salt, bacon and see how things get tasteless pretty quick.

 

 

There's a difference between adding enough salt to season it and maximising the salt load to maximise the addiction potential... same with sugar, look at many foods marketed to children, which technically are confectionary rather than food.

 

 

I am glad you clarified it. I don't think my reply was strongly worded enough to make it clear these ingredients are not to be overused. 





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  #2696544 22-Apr-2021 10:18
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neb:The "food" industry has for many years employed nutritionists to tell them how to optimally load their "food" with this stuff to ensure maximum consumer craving for it.

 

You mean they try to make food that people like???? How dare they!

 

 

 

 


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  #2696550 22-Apr-2021 10:34
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neb:The "food" industry has for many years employed nutritionists to tell them how to optimally load their "food" with this stuff to ensure maximum consumer craving for it.

 

You mean they try to make food that people like???? How dare they!

 

 

Well it's not just the food industry.

 

The problem is when "they" offer product that people like, when they know that the product is addictive, and they know that the addiction causes harm.

 

Did this topic start with tobacco, and should it include gambling, fast food & lollies and Walter White's science lab?


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  #2697159 23-Apr-2021 12:52
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Screen Protector for my Samsung phone came off. Arranged for Samsung to fit a replacement, but the only place in Auckland is on the North Shore. 40 minute drive, 45 minute wait, 45 minute drive back. Screen Protector lifted again after 12 hours.

 

Arrange another protector same place, same drive, less wait, less return trip time, screen protector lifted by the time I get home.

 

They now want my phone for 2-3 business days to investigate and it likely won't be covered under 'warranty'.


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