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Oblivian:
And in other news.. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/safety-warehouse-fined-30000-for-unsolicited-text-messages/7HPP3X752T5NY3P7CPSMWGWVQ4/
Pity the fine was not 100k
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Earlier than this event. But the whole idea of harvesting contact marketing data seems to be something not unfamiliar.
From Commerce Commission:
Greenback Ecommerce Limited trading as The Safety Warehouse (TSW) has been warned by the Commerce Commission for engaging in conduct that it considers was liable to mislead and likely to have breached the Fair Trading Act in its promotion of “The Drop” event held in Aotea Square, Auckland, on 5 December 2020.
In the Commission’s view TSW’s promotion of the event on social media platforms and its website was liable to mislead consumers by creating the impression that $100,000 in cash would be given away at the event, when in fact only a total of $3,600 of money was given away.
TSW encouraged consumers to sign up to attend the free event by promoting “The Drop” using phrases such as, “THE DROP $100K CASH GIVEAWAY”, “We’re dropping $100,000 in value from the sky in Aotea Square at 12pm on Saturday the 5th. Yes, ACTUAL MONEY will be flying from the sky” and “The Drop – 100K Live Cash Giveaway – Auckland”.
Around 1,600 people attended “The Drop” event. The Commission spoke to people who went to the event who said they were disappointed to discover that most of what was being given away was vouchers in the form of lookalike $5 notes when, as a result of the advertising they viewed, they were under the impression that $100,000 cash would be given away.
Commerce Commission Chair Anna Rawlings said, “Businesses have a responsibility to be upfront and clear about what they’re offering – they must not tell half-truths or provide information that is liable to mislead consumers. They should think carefully about how consumers will interpret the claims they make and what consumers will likely understand about them – even when it is done as part of a one-off publicity event which is free to attend”.
The Commission is satisfied that this was a one-off event and TSW has confirmed it does not intend to run this type of event in the future.
The warning letter has been published on the Commission’s case register.
Background
Warning letter
A warning explains the Commission’s opinion that the conduct at issue is likely to have breached the law. It is not a finding of non-compliance – only the Courts can decide whether a breach of the law has occurred.
The purpose of a warning letter is to inform the recipient of the Commission’s view that there has likely been a breach of the law, to suggest a change in the recipient’s behaviour and to encourage future compliance with the law.
The relevant law
Section 11 of the Fair Trading Act prohibits conduct in trade liable to mislead the public as to
the nature, characteristics, suitability for a purpose, or quantity of services.
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Thorn declined to comment over the phone this morning - saying only "we won't agree or disagree with any of the findings" - asking for written questions to be sent before hanging up.
Translation: "I screwed up and I know it but I refuse to face up to the consequences or apologise for my stupid fake attention-seeking stunt."
I note he has also since renamed his company as well - https://megasafety.nz/
freitasm:
From Commerce Commission:
So in other words nothing.
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This country is too soft on wrongdoings. A slap over the wrist with a bus ticket.
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heavenlywild:
This country is too soft on wrongdoings. A slap over the wrist with a bus ticket.
That bus ticket was not even wet and made out of tissue paper.
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This guy will just keep doing it, just google his name to see what he has been up too.
Some of the interesting things are
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Thorn has also faced criminal charges in the Christchurch District Court after being accused of trying to run down a woman in a company car, Stuff reported.
He pleaded guilty to driving in a dangerous manner and failing to provide police with details about a driver, Stuff reported, before being fined $1000, ordered to pay $2500 in emotional harm reparation and disqualified from driving for six months.**
That was posted on the previous page, in December https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=48&topicid=280276&page_no=8#2620380
Keep calm, and carry on posting.
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quickymart:
Sounds like a classic con artist. If you read "A Piece of Blue Sky" by Jon Atack, about the early history of L. Ron Hubbard, you'll find a similar character portrait there.
neb:quickymart:Sounds like a classic con artist. If you read "A Piece of Blue Sky" by Jon Atack, about the early history of L. Ron Hubbard, you'll find a similar character portrait there.
https://www.webworm.co/p/shadows
Very interesting article and helps explain the ballsup of the 'money' drop. By the sound of it, everything he touches is a ballsup.
I forget where I heard the expression but he's a 'faecal king Midas' - anyone in business should avoid him.
Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21
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