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#110953 20-Oct-2012 14:56
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Ok,

I've never dealt with 'Top 10' (link) so I've got some questions for those who have plus a question relating to the Lumia 800/900:

1) What are they like when it comes to processing and shipping speed? are they fairly reliable? I have heard that some one day sales really drag it out to the point that you can wait up to 6 weeks before something finally arrives.

2) I am looking at the Nokia 800 and 900 but I am leaning towards the 800 as I really don't need LTE support nor the faster connection speeds (plus I'd like to choose the colour) - has anyone got any experience with the Lumia? is there a good argument to go for the 900 over the 800*










* I'm a Samsung Galaxy S3 user but the procrastination when it comes to updates is annoying me some what that I'd prefer jumping ship than waiting it out for Samsung/carriers to pull finger.




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  #704030 20-Oct-2012 15:17
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The 900 screen is so much bigger...




 

 

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  #704033 20-Oct-2012 15:37
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freitasm: The 900 screen is so much bigger...


Cool - thanks for pointing that out as the SG3 has spoilt me with a big screen and I'd hate to go back to a smaller sized screen. I think I'll end up going for a Lumia 900 - just go to double check the frequencies listed on their page to ensure it works with Telecom's XT Network.




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  #704095 20-Oct-2012 19:19
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kawaii:
* I'm a Samsung Galaxy S3 user but the procrastination when it comes to updates is annoying me some what that I'd prefer jumping ship than waiting it out for Samsung/carriers to pull finger.


This isn't actually true any more.  For some dumb reason, Microsoft now allows carriers or manufacturers to "skip" an update as long as they deliver the next update.  Since the next update for WP7 is the last update, it's entirely possible that some models may never see another update.  If you want guaranteed updates, either wait for WP8 or get an iPhone.

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  #704191 21-Oct-2012 03:32
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Kyanar:
kawaii:
* I'm a Samsung Galaxy S3 user but the procrastination when it comes to updates is annoying me some what that I'd prefer jumping ship than waiting it out for Samsung/carriers to pull finger.


This isn't actually true any more.  For some dumb reason, Microsoft now allows carriers or manufacturers to "skip" an update as long as they deliver the next update.  Since the next update for WP7 is the last update, it's entirely possible that some models may never see another update.  If you want guaranteed updates, either wait for WP8 or get an iPhone.


The Lumia 900 is NZ$549 but I've also been looking at clove.co.uk with the Samsung Ativ S priced at £369.00 (NZ$722.88 + GST) and I'm wondering whether it is worth waiting for Windows Phone 8 or taking advantage of what appears to be a bargain. My main use of my mobile phone is to to phone, text message, email, browse the web, listen to music and use the ASB application. Looking from where I sit I don't think the move to Windows Phone 8 really is going to have any advantage to me thus maybe I'm better off jumping at the opportunity. Updates aren't of real critical importance but I'm mainly concerned because Android has so many rough edges with my experience with iOS and Windows Phone that the updates tend to be 'icing on the cake' rather than 'thank god they finally fixed that bug!" solutions.

Btw, anyone familiar with how the parallel imported phones upgrade since no carrier in NZ sells the Lumia 900 - does it get updates directly from Nokia/Microsoft?




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  #704198 21-Oct-2012 07:54
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I have a Lumia 900 and it receives updates without a glitch - no doubt all of them will receive the Windows Phone 7.8 update soon. It's worth noting too that the Galaxy SIII will be getting the Android 4.1 update in the coming weeks - I'm looking forward to that one too since I use both handsets - each of them are impressive but for different reasons.




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kawaii

1) My very first test on a trading website is to check their "About Us" and "Contact Us" links.


My test with Top-10 immediately tells me if I would be prepared to part with several hundred dollars.
Oh no! )-:


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  #704470 21-Oct-2012 21:22
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SCUBADOO: kawaii

1) My very first test on a trading website is to check their "About Us" and "Contact Us" links.


My test with Top-10 immediately tells me if I would be prepared to part with several hundred dollars.
Oh no! )-:



Despite the intent to induce a bit of paranoia there, the About Us page lists a GST number, and the domain is registered without hidden details by a New Zealand registered company.

Still, being cautious can't hurt, though it would be a good idea to look at a bit more than the obvious.

 
 
 
 


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  #704477 21-Oct-2012 21:54
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Am I missing something here...
You want to change from an S3, because you're not getting updates ... (so these seem to be important to you)
To get an end-of-life Limos that won't be getting any.

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  #704513 22-Oct-2012 01:28
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oxnsox: Am I missing something here... You want to change from an S3, because you're not getting updates ... (so these seem to be important to you) To get an end-of-life Limos that won't be getting any.


Please read my follow up reply which addressed that issue (post #704191).

paulspain: I have a Lumia 900 and it receives updates without a glitch - no doubt all of them will receive the Windows Phone 7.8 update soon. It's worth noting too that the Galaxy SIII will be getting the Android 4.1 update in the coming weeks - I'm looking forward to that one too since I use both handsets - each of them are impressive but for different reasons.


Looking forward to 7.8 but I'm pretty happy with 7.5 as it exists already so thus the icing on the cake rather than something I 'really, really, really' need. From what it appears Windows Phone 7 is more or less being relegated to the low end so I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up seeing updates post 7.8 but I wouldn't expect new features or anything major though.




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#704525 22-Oct-2012 07:46
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Kyanar:
Despite the intent to induce a bit of paranoia there, the About Us page lists a GST number, and the domain is registered without hidden details by a New Zealand registered company.

Still, being cautious can't hurt, though it would be a good idea to look at a bit more than the obvious.

And what do you think you would find at that address? A warehouse full of phones? 
Perhaps a visit to the Director in Hawthorn, Nigeria - sorry Australia would be more fruitful.
No paranoia at all. I simply will not purchase from any online trader that is not prepared to give full contact details on their website.
An email address alone does not cut it for me.
You of course are welcome to.


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  #704533 22-Oct-2012 08:31
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kawaii:
Looking forward to 7.8 but I'm pretty happy with 7.5 as it exists already so thus the icing on the cake rather than something I 'really, really, really' need. From what it appears Windows Phone 7 is more or less being relegated to the low end so I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up seeing updates post 7.8 but I wouldn't expect new features or anything major though.


No, you won't see updates past 7.8.  Windows Phone 7 is End-of-Life - if you want updates, you need to buy a Windows Phone 8 device.  That said, you have indicated you're happy with 7 (and I definitely would say I like it too.  Tiles are a way cooler concept than grids of icons!)

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  #704539 22-Oct-2012 08:49
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Looking at the registry I see (as found by others) the company director is based overseas... which contradicts the "About US" blurb "100 % NZ established,Owned and operated"...

Sorry, too messy. and at the risk of not having CGA support, etc, etc.





 

 

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  #704540 22-Oct-2012 08:49
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SCUBADOO: And what do you think you would find at that address? A warehouse full of phones? 
Perhaps a visit to the Director in Hawthorn, Nigeria - sorry Australia would be more fruitful.
No paranoia at all. I simply will not purchase from any online trader that is not prepared to give full contact details on their website.
An email address alone does not cut it for me.
You of course are welcome to.


Obviously not a warehouse full of phones - it's fairly obvious that a company charging prices like these guys do will be drop shipping (which there's nothing necessarily wrong with) - it's a house at that address.  You've pretty much ruled out ever buying from a home business, because they won't give out the physical address (being their house and all that) which is just plain silly.

In this case though, these guys have merchant service processing through ANZ (and let me tell you, NZ banks ask for A LOT of information to provide direct credit card processing) as well as PayPal and all that.  Apart from bank deposit, all of those payment methods can be reversed if the seller tries to rip you off.  Again, it's silly to exclude a supplier simply because they don't want to give you an address.

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  #704564 22-Oct-2012 09:36
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Kyanar

The OP asked the question - "are they fairly reliable?".
Hopefully a geek here can answer that from actual real dealings with the company.

I simply gave my opinion based on the website information - or lack of it.
Would you deal with that website as it stands? If so great. If not great.

Perhaps someone in Auckland could try the phone details from here.



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  #705054 23-Oct-2012 12:42
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I bought a phone from Top 10 last year.

The phone was not drop shipped but I believe it was imported to order.  Once it got to NZ they setup the language selection for me (phone's native language was Greek).

I would order from them again, price was competitive and flexible, shipping was a little slower than I would have liked but they did deliver in the timeframe they said.

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