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Mikeoz

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Topic # 11120 4-Jan-2007 11:58

Didn't quite know where to post this so here goes:

Looking for a friendly computer 'genius' to offer some advice.

I currently belong to a website which does not allow me to use a proxy unless it is based in my country of residence (as determined by the details I sent them when I subscribed). The reason for this: while it is legal to use this site from NZ it is not possible to do so from some other countries such as the USA.

My problem: I will be spending time in the US this year so won't - in theory - be able to use the site and it's services . . . unless I can find a reliable proxy in New Zealand ( it has to 'send' a NZ IP).

I know very little about this side of computing so was looking to open a discussion with someone more knowledgeable than myself. Quite happy to pay for a service or find an alternative solution.

Thanks for any help you may be able to provide.

PS: For the curious - it's a sports betting service, a field in which I make my living.

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Reply # 56840 4-Jan-2007 12:11

if you got another pc available, and have a reliable internet connection, or have someone home to do the reboot if the thing crashes etc. then set up a remote access, or RDP or Terminal Service, then when you're in USA, RDP-in to this computer and browser from this computer to it.

Just don't expect great speed or good multimedia though.

I spare you the technical setup at the moment. And see what other suggested, then "shop" for your solution.

Or unless, someone is willing to "rent" your their computer access for Terminal Client access to their Windows Server and running in Application mode, then that'll do too...

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Reply # 56842 4-Jan-2007 12:15

Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately I won't have access to a computer in NZ (at least not my own). Interesting idea and maybe one worth pursuing.

Would there be a big decrese in connection speed? In my field this can be kind of critical.

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Reply # 56843 4-Jan-2007 12:35

when accessing remotely, speed will always suffer but there are few things you can do to help speed up. Like reducing the "Screen Effect" when using Remote Desktop Client, turn it down to "56k" will help, it removes the window theme, wallpaper and enable "bitmap caching" so it remembers the "unused" portion of the desktop when redrawing the screen.

The Terminal Service in Application mode would be ideal, as it leaves you to use your "desktop" from using server's grunt to do the work. Speed probably excusable in this respect though. Don't quote me on this as I haven't used TS in Application mode, only TS in Remote Administration for Windows Server 2003. Do bear in mind though, TS in application mode is essentially a CAL with remote usage.

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Reply # 56844 4-Jan-2007 12:38

Further more, Vista's RDP service is much better, and when using RDP Client v6, you get Aero Glass etc if the client machine that you use has enough graphics grunt capable of driving the Aero.

Also, if this is a critical usage, perhaps you should negotiate with the website owner and let them know the situation. Mind I ask what website is this?

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Reply # 56871 4-Jan-2007 15:28

Thanks chiefie - much appreciated . . . though I've still got my dictionary out following your thoughts. I'm not very savvy in relation to the processes we'ew talking about.

The legalities affect all sports betting websites - mine is one of many. Basically you can't bet in a specific way from countries like Australia (in-running betting). There are many anomalies, too many to list, but the basic premise stands that I need an NZ IP address whenever and whereever I bet from. If they see I'm using a proxy with a non-NZ address, then the bet will not be processed and my account likely closed.

Thanks once again for your thoughts - I'm still working through them.

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Reply # 56881 4-Jan-2007 16:19

Some of the tips for getting out of firewalls could be useful in this situation. This is the same kind of thing that people do to get around a ban on their IP address in IRC.

Remote-Desktop is probably the easiest option. It would be a simple case of enabling it in windows, and then allowing the router to open the port up.

Either that or he could use SSH. Probably the most secure way. You have the SSH server on your new zealand computer (SSH Daemon) and it listens on a specific port.

Using a SSH client program like PuTTY on the American computer, you can connect to the NZ computer securely. And PuTTY lets you set it up so you have proxy on your American machine (localhost), and when your programs go through that, they have the NZ computer's IP address.

EG: web browser -- proxy on localhost ---~~SSH traffic over the internet~~--> SSH server----betting website.

The method of choice for work-IRCers everywhere :)

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Reply # 56970 5-Jan-2007 10:33

Thanks for all the input - much appreciated.

I've had someone suggest a solution assuming I don't have access to a computer while away.

They said I should try to get hosting in NZ and use a CGI Proxy - making sure the server is NZ based.

Any opinions on this method - not really something I'm familiar with.

Thanks for your time.

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Reply # 56978 5-Jan-2007 12:28

Sounds kinda costly. As far as I'm aware most hosting costs money. Even a little bit of money still hurts.

Mikeoz

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Reply # 56993 5-Jan-2007 14:06

To be honest i expected to have to pay for some sort of service along the way.
It may be worth it for my specific needs.

Any idea on a ballpark figure?

Any drawbacks or downsides you can think of.

Thanks agian for your input.

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Reply # 56994 5-Jan-2007 14:08

well. chat on #Geekzone on IRC and see who there would be generous enough to set a CGI-Proxy service for you. In theory, that shouldn't be expensive, may even able to draft a contract up to cover both parties.

I would help but I have not really look into CGI-Proxy service though. What does it need to run?

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Reply # 56995 5-Jan-2007 14:15

Chiefie - when you say "what does it have to run" what are you referring to.

As I said earlier, this is not an area I know a lot about - kind of winging at the moment
but entirely serious in my intent.

The only task I need to achieve is to log on to a specific website (sports betting) - from Australia
for instance - with a NZ IP address registering at log in. I'll then be using the website to place bets
(a fulltime enterprise). Hope all that makes sense.

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Reply # 56997 5-Jan-2007 14:19

Well... seems like anyone who already have a webhosting service on Linux, can host the CGI-Proxy service for you. So yeah... ask about on here or #Geekzone IRC Channel and see who is willing to let you piggy back on their service.

I also have another idea, and that's VPN in to someone's network (preferrably someone you have strike a deal or agreement with) and them running a proxy service, then voila.

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Reply # 57035 5-Jan-2007 21:44

Yeah it really does end up with a proxy at the end of the day. And it seems that if you're not too comfortable doing technical stuff, your best bet will be to have someone set up a CGI proxy for you. I think thats probably your best bet. And if that falls through, go with SSH.

Mikeoz

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Reply # 57080 6-Jan-2007 10:23

Thanks for the advice - much appreciated.

I'm in the process of looking for someone to sort out the cgi-proxy as we speak . . .