Why are people not held accountable for their own actions these days ?

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#114245 13-Feb-2013 10:26

A coroner is putting some of the blame onto Coca-cola for a woman being stupid enough to drink 10 litres a day! (in conjunction with little other food and packets of cancer sticks).

Did they force her to do it ?

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#761599 13-Feb-2013 10:33

Yes completely agree. NZers are never responsible for their own actions. We live in such a socialized society where virtually everyone wants to pass their responsibilities on to someone else. There is a small portion of the population who takes responsibility and try their best to make up for those that don't. Sick of it personally and its my number 1 reason for wanting to leave NZ

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#761601 13-Feb-2013 10:34

Drinking 10 litres of water a day will eventually kill you apparently. The fault is her own. Her family should also shoulder some of the blame. Not the fault of Coca-Cola in view. Not one bit. It wouldn't matter what you put on the product label.

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#761603 13-Feb-2013 10:38

It's pretty retarded. 10 litres of anything a day will probably kill you.

Oh, lookie here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10800227

University of Otago researcher Lisa Te Morenga said the sheer volume of water Ms Harris was consuming in the 10 litres of Coca-Cola she was drinking could have been more toxic than the huge levels of sugar and caffeine.

A person consuming up to 10 litres of any liquid a day would severely put their health at risk, Dr Te Morenga said.

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#761604 13-Feb-2013 10:38

Bye bye

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#761606 13-Feb-2013 10:44

Nothing in that particular article suggests coca-cola is to blame. The coroner makes the point there are established guidelines for safe caffeine use and that coca-cola and the ministry of health should consider a labeling requirement for packaged products containing caffeine.

"Guidelines for labelling caffeine products were being reviewed by Australia and New Zealand officials [] The ministry would ensure the coroner's recommendations were considered as part of that review, and public consultation on the review will take place in April,"

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#761609 13-Feb-2013 10:45

BigHammer: Drinking 10 litres of water a day will eventually kill you apparently. The fault is her own. Her family should also shoulder some of the blame. Not the fault of Coca-Cola in view. Not one bit. It wouldn't matter what you put on the product label.

I agree on the family part, they were saying she was sick all the time, and throwing up most mornings, if you were addicted to drugs or alcohol, you'd hope family would help you out of it, should this have been any different? It sounded like there were warning signs, why didn't they get her help!

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#761613 13-Feb-2013 10:52

Look at smoking... packs are now pretty much screaming (or were) "THIS WILL KILL YOU" and people still smoke... Coke could call it "Killer Cola" and people will still do it...

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#761615 13-Feb-2013 10:55

On the bright side, at least Richard Prosser is being held accountable for his big mouthed brain-farts. OTOH his publisher (Investigate Magazine - Ian Wishart) isn't.

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#761618 13-Feb-2013 11:03

xpd: Look at smoking... packs are now pretty much screaming (or were) "THIS WILL KILL YOU" and people still smoke... Coke could call it "Killer Cola" and people will still do it...

Yup agreed. I sometimes wonder if all these increasingly over-the-top warnings just desensitize people to the warnings and mean they're more likely to ignore warnings of any kind... maybe get rid of all the warnings and let darwinism sort them out.

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#761619 13-Feb-2013 11:04

xpd: Look at smoking... packs are now pretty much screaming (or were) "THIS WILL KILL YOU" and people still smoke... Coke could call it "Killer Cola" and people will still do it...

Hell yeah; if I was Coke's lawyer I would have stood up in court and said 'Your Worship, as every human being intelligent enough to remember that "breathe in" comes after "breathe out" knows, Coke is basically poison. Drink it at your own risk.'

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#761638 13-Feb-2013 11:41

SaltyNZ:
xpd: Look at smoking... packs are now pretty much screaming (or were) "THIS WILL KILL YOU" and people still smoke... Coke could call it "Killer Cola" and people will still do it...

Hell yeah; if I was Coke's lawyer I would have stood up in court and said 'Your Worship, as every human being intelligent enough to remember that "breathe in" comes after "breathe out" knows, Coke is basically poison. Drink it at your own risk.'

I'll add a 'Hell yeah!' to that also!

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#761644 13-Feb-2013 11:55

I read this differently...

"Mr Crerar had chosen to focus on the combination of Ms Harris' excessive consumption of Coke, together with other health and lifestyle factors, as the probable cause of her death."

Sounds eminently reasonable to me.

But not the part where he thinks coca cola should put a warning label on coke.

And, to anyone who wants to leave NZ to escape this...you're out of luck, most other countries are way ahead of us with their rules and regulations.

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#761647 13-Feb-2013 11:57

I tend to agree about personal responsibilty as well. Weather you drink or smoke or even exercise excesivlely to the point it is unhealthy, it gets back to your own responsibilty. Even the girl who lost 2 front teeth at that party that got out of hand and riot police were called in. While I feel sorry for the girl, its a bit like a war zone. if you are going to hang around in one, the chance of getting hurt or killed increases dramaticly.
How often have we seen that on the news where so called innocent people who hang around out of control partys or riots and then complain to the media when they get hurt by the police.

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#761649 13-Feb-2013 11:59

I think the OP is taking liberties with the coroners findings here. The coroner was suggesting that Coke should print a warning about the recommended caffiene intake, which is entirely reasonable - you'll note energy drinks already print this information. There is no suggestion of blaming Coca Cola here for this womans folly, personally I think the OP should get down off their high-horse on this one.

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#761650 13-Feb-2013 12:02

I wonder why Caffeine is still in Coke and other drinks made by Cocoa Cola? When Coke was first developed it was for migraine headache treatment so there was value for Caffeine to be included. I don't really see any reason to have it included now except for it's addictive properties.

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