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Topic # 114875 6-Mar-2013 00:21
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But probably knew anyway !


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288221/The-great-printer-rip-It-costs-vintage-champers--devious-new-tricks-mean-constantly-buy-refills.html




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  Reply # 775392 6-Mar-2013 07:08
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Yeah, I ditched inkjets completely a year or so ago as I had finally had enough. Rubbish build quality in the printers themselves - even from companies who used to make good ones *cough*Hewlett-Packard*cough* - and ink cartridges that last 5 pages between $80 refills.

I have been using a Brother colour laser ever since. Granted the photo quality is not as good as a photo-quality inkjet, but I haven't printed those for years either. The photo place is cheaper. The starter toner carts are lower capacity than refills but they still lasted about 4 months. We have *just* started getting low toner warnings on the colour ones again now - probably 8 months after the last lot, and we print a LOT (kids & kid-related), and never think twice about whether that page really *needs* colour.




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  Reply # 775399 6-Mar-2013 07:44
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  Reply # 775405 6-Mar-2013 08:03
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I solved that problem with a RIHAC ink system. It cost about $200 including 6x100ml ink refills, but it's been two years and I haven't finished the first 6x100ml set of tanks yet. That amount of ink would've cost around $2400 from Canon/Epson. I rarely print images, I use it as a document printer, but I do print full page A4 reasonably regularly. The prints look fine.




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  Reply # 775538 6-Mar-2013 10:29
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In other news water is wet, the sky is blue, dirt is dirty, and geeks love gadgets.

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  Reply # 777290 9-Mar-2013 10:56
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SaltyNZ: Yeah, I ditched inkjets completely a year or so ago as I had finally had enough. Rubbish build quality in the printers themselves - even from companies who used to make good ones *cough*Hewlett-Packard*cough* - and ink cartridges that last 5 pages between $80 refills.

I have been using a Brother colour laser ever since. ...


Agreed.  Did the same myself.  Bought a 3040CN a few months back for about $175 after cashback.  Now Brother is running another promo and have just bought a second one for $118 so that I've got a spare lot of toners.  Yes they are starters with a 1000 page yield rather than the 1400 pages from a 'proper' replacement (that's the colours, black replacement cartridge yield is 2500) but still far better value than paying $120 odd for a single new toner cartridge.  Have also kept out trusty old Kyocera monochrome for B&W printing, cheap to run with a 5000 page after-market cartridge for about $60.




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  Reply # 777298 9-Mar-2013 11:32
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The only time I use an inkjet (Canon) is to print CD/DVD labels. Everything else is via laser..




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  Reply # 777304 9-Mar-2013 11:51
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you know it's a ripoff when its cheaper to buy a new printer with ink than just replace the ink cartridges . mind you i have found someone on Trade me that sells Brother cartridges for $11 a set of 4




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  Reply # 777542 10-Mar-2013 00:07
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vexxxboy: you know it's a ripoff when its cheaper to buy a new printer with ink than just replace the ink cartridges . mind you i have found someone on Trade me that sells Brother cartridges for $11 a set of 4


The printers never have full ink them when you buy though.

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  Reply # 777556 10-Mar-2013 07:43
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eXDee:
vexxxboy: you know it's a ripoff when its cheaper to buy a new printer with ink than just replace the ink cartridges . mind you i have found someone on Trade me that sells Brother cartridges for $11 a set of 4


The printers never have full ink them when you buy though.


FTFY




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  Reply # 777577 10-Mar-2013 11:06
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which brother laser should i buy to replace my hp deskjet 2050?

i'm into low cost of replacebles ie low toner consumption & price (you need both :)

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  Reply # 777580 10-Mar-2013 11:18
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I got aftermarket pigment inks off ebay. was always losing ink flow on the ciss till I picked up the tank to give it some pressure so just reverted to refillable carts.




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  Reply # 777607 10-Mar-2013 12:29
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My ink tanks sit beside the printer, slightly lower than the print heads, I've never had to pick it up.




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  Reply # 777616 10-Mar-2013 13:01
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I've seen the other side of the argument many times and will only ever use original cartridges. I've lost count of how many times I've seen poor printing quality, shortened life of printers etc, or in the days of ink ribbons an ATM machine catching fire; all due to refilled, non original cartridges ribbons etc.
One of the Banks use to re-stuff their ink ribbons for the ATM machines. This cost them 1/2 the price of a genuine new ribbon. We sent a batch away for testing, net result being the average life was 1/3 of an original.
Also common were callouts for laser printer poor print quality, only to discover a refilled cartridge causing the issue. The callout fee was by far significantly more than any savings they were making on refilled.

Obviously your mileage will vary, and if you have an old printer you just want to use for buget printing, then yes there is a place for refilled, 3rd party cartridges. For me though, I'll stick to originals with ink-jet for the odd bit or colour printing, and laser for the rest.




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  Reply # 777622 10-Mar-2013 13:31
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joker97: which brother laser should i buy to replace my hp deskjet 2050?

i'm into low cost of replacebles ie low toner consumption & price (you need both :)

thansk


I'm pretty happy with ours -- HL-3040CN. Toner can be had for as low as $85 + GST from PBTech. (Obviously 4x for full replacement; normally the three colour ones run out at the same time, but the black one lasts about an extra 1000 pages - so even there you're being somewhat ripped off!)




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