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Topic # 120930 18-Jun-2013 21:38
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Are they a deterrent or an advertisement that you have something worth stealing?

Does anyone know where to get non generic stickers? e.g stickers of an actual company not just the 'warning house is alarmed' stickers of trademe?

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  Reply # 838953 18-Jun-2013 21:38
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Hmmmm. Here we go.




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  Reply # 838956 18-Jun-2013 21:44
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PeterReader: Hmmmm. Here we go.


Is it just me, or is that basically the only thing he ever says?




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  Reply # 838960 18-Jun-2013 21:50
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PeterReader: Hmmmm. Here we go.


Is it just me, or is that basically the only thing he ever says?
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  Reply # 838974 18-Jun-2013 22:26
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From other posts, I think it says that whenever the words 'trade me' are mentioned, as whoever programmed it sees that as a controversial topic.

What you are talking about are brand name security stickers. I don't think any company will just give you those without an alarm installing. I am not use they are a deterrent either, as I know a house that was broken into that had them. You are best to get an alarm.

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  Reply # 838981 18-Jun-2013 22:33
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SaltyNZ:
PeterReader: Hmmmm. Here we go.


Is it just me, or is that basically the only thing he ever says?


He says different things in different forums. 






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  Reply # 839034 18-Jun-2013 23:52
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plod:
SaltyNZ:
PeterReader: Hmmmm. Here we go.


Is it just me, or is that basically the only thing he ever says?
yep, 400 odd useless posts


I think PeterReader needs to learn how to give it back to people that quote him.

Re: House Alarm stickers. In South Africa we use to have "Armed response" signs. Those were normally a deterrent because you would pay private security companies to rock up (with guns) when they alarm goes off.  





I have always wondered what would happen if I put one of these signs up outside my house. 



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  Reply # 839037 19-Jun-2013 04:43
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I think I would be more scared of a neighborhood watch / alarm system than of the security guards if I was a thief. Here in Norway they usually take at least 30 minutes to repsond, and when they do show up they are there as witnesses and are not to engage the thieves.

A burglar that knows what he is doing is going to be in and out before those 30 minutes and won't bother much about an alarm going off.

You are better off using your money to secure your windows and doors so its harder to break into your house.

Oh and if you have something you really don't want anyone to steal, you should check this out:
http://www.protectglobal.co.uk/

In many cases the Police have had to come collect people that have not been able to get out of the shop or house they tried to rob.. :)




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  Reply # 839076 19-Jun-2013 09:29
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Had a fascinating chat on the flight back from the USA with a sheriff from the States.  To cut a long story short, if someone breaks into your house in the States, and you kill them with whatever ridiculous military grade weaponry you have at hand, it's called justified homicide.

Back on topic, not sure if burglars can read stickers :)

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  Reply # 839095 19-Jun-2013 09:48
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Find generic ones, as if you have ones with your actual security firm or alarm on it (if you have one), then a couple of things might happen... one is that the burglar might go "oh, Bob knows how to disable those in 1s, Ill go get him to help"... the other is that some security firms are complete muppets and dont ask for any ID, so burglar breaks in, sets off alarm, calls the security firm themselves and says "whoops, electrician fudged up the alarm, ignore it" - noone comes to confirm. - Ive set off alarms and had the security firm call the house number Im in and ask if everything is ok - "yes, accidentally set it off". No query on who I was, any ID etc. (And YES, I was there legally :-p)




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  Reply # 839112 19-Jun-2013 10:19
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From the emergency services point of view, having company stickers can be really frustrating, especially when you are not their client, or you do not remove the old companies sticker. I am aware of instances where police have had to waste a lot of time calling a lot of different companies trying to reach keyholders, either the owners or security company, to disable the alarm.

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  Reply # 839130 19-Jun-2013 10:39
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nate: Had a fascinating chat on the flight back from the USA with a sheriff from the States.  To cut a long story short, if someone breaks into your house in the States, and you kill them with whatever ridiculous military grade weaponry you have at hand, it's called justified homicide.

Back on topic, not sure if burglars can read stickers :)


This will depend on the state. Each has different stand-your-ground laws. Some states have this in law, some have this in practice but not in law.

Also, the USA is crazy. They have federal agencies (FBI, ATF), state troopers, police departments, sheriffs. In some counties sheriffs are responsible for some things and police departments for others but in other counties sheriffs do all the police work. It's complicated and their laws don't help.






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  Reply # 839131 19-Jun-2013 10:39
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Suggest you change your alarm company. If there is an alarm and the ring they should require a special pass phrase that is on file at the monitoring company. Mine certainly does and if you cannot answer question they will
treat you as an intruder and come out to premises


xpd: Find generic ones, as if you have ones with your actual security firm or alarm on it (if you have one), then a couple of things might happen... one is that the burglar might go "oh, Bob knows how to disable those in 1s, Ill go get him to help"... the other is that some security firms are complete muppets and dont ask for any ID, so burglar breaks in, sets off alarm, calls the security firm themselves and says "whoops, electrician fudged up the alarm, ignore it" - noone comes to confirm. - Ive set off alarms and had the security firm call the house number Im in and ask if everything is ok - "yes, accidentally set it off". No query on who I was, any ID etc. (And YES, I was there legally :-p)




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  Reply # 839152 19-Jun-2013 10:56
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nate: Had a fascinating chat on the flight back from the USA with a sheriff from the States.  To cut a long story short, if someone breaks into your house in the States, and you kill them with whatever ridiculous military grade weaponry you have at hand, it's called justified homicide.

Back on topic, not sure if burglars can read stickers :)


This will depend on the state. Each has different stand-your-ground laws. Some states have this in law, some have this in practice but not in law.

Also, the USA is crazy. They have federal agencies (FBI, ATF), state troopers, police departments, sheriffs. In some counties sheriffs are responsible for some things and police departments for others but in other counties sheriffs do all the police work. It's complicated and their laws don't help.




Yeah but I like the concept.  Fundamentally the intruder wouldn't die if they weren't in your house.  It's a bit like a paying ACC for injuries incurred whilst breaking the law discussion.

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  Reply # 839473 19-Jun-2013 15:10
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When I bought one of these

http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/security/magnetic-door-and-window-alarm-dsnz-l9602

it came with 4 Swann security/surveillance window stickers in the box. Makes the place look like it is alarmed and monitored with cameras. I would have paid $18 just to have the stickers so the window alarm was just a bonus really..
 

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