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# 12672 30-Mar-2007 10:01
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did anyone watch police 10-7 on thursday? basically there was a guy sitting on a bus stop bench at night and he was passed out there because he was drunk. he was passed out and asleep. he was not hurting anyone. now the police came over and gave him two options.they said he can either go back to the police station and sober up for the night or they will take him home. the man said no thanks he will stay on the bus stop bench. but the police said he had to choose one of the options they suggested. so he agreed for them to take him home.
 my question is, if you are not doing anything he which he was not because he was passed out drunk on a bus stop seat at night,can the police take you to the cells or take you home? why can't you just stay where you are?

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  # 65570 30-Mar-2007 10:04
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It would have been for his own safety, pretty easy to mug/beat someone when they're passed out on a park bench.

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# 65571 30-Mar-2007 10:08
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Think about it the guy is drunk and not with it

If the guy was sober and just relaxing thats a different story!! the police would of left him.

There are bylaws about been drunk in public places

 
 
 
 


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# 65591 30-Mar-2007 12:05
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    Um yeah...would you rather be passed out in the safety of home/police cell or at a public bus stop??

    I dont think many people will choose the bus stop option, especially if they value their lives.

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# 65593 30-Mar-2007 12:14
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Hmmm unless they drop you off in the middle of nowhere & then you get killed in a hit-and-run by a passing car... NZ Herald no cameras around then aye!




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  # 65951 2-Apr-2007 10:45
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so when they do take you in if your passed out drunk do they have to file papers? like do they have to give you an alcohol breath test back at the station and record this? they can't just throw you in the cells right? they have to prove your drunk and record it right?

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  # 65963 2-Apr-2007 11:39
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stacey1122: so when they do take you in if your passed out drunk do they have to file papers? like do they have to give you an alcohol breath test back at the station and record this? they can't just throw you in the cells right? they have to prove your drunk and record it right?

I am not sure what kind of country you want to live in. Im quite happy for drunks to be removed from the street, left to sober up, and then not penalised with a disorderly charge if they werent actually being disorderly.

If you were 'drunk' and they found you, and you could say "Hey, I have $30, Im going to get a taxi home" - then I would like to think  they would let you go on your merry way.

If you are comoed out, and not in control, you are a target for robbery, assault, sexual violation and more. Why do you think they *shouldnt* take people like that in. Or if they do take them in for their own safety, why do you think they should be processed in some way. The Police would only process paperwork in most circumstances if a crime has been committed. Without a crime, they would normally take their own notes for future reference.

Why bother with a breath test? If you are not driving a motor vehicle, the level of breath alcohol is irrelevant for anything else.

As for proving you are drunk, how about recounting to you in the morning (whilst you are severely hungover with the dry horrors), about finding you passed out, with a Woody bottle in your hand, stinking of alcohol, drooling, a pile of vomit on the ground beside you (half of which is on your shoes), and when woken, an inability to remember anything beyond your first name, and the blonde you thought you scored 3 hours previous (who is still partying hard at the bar you got kicked out of).

Police deal with this crud every day, and to say they have to document and process the whole lot is just ridiculous in my opinion.







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  # 66502 6-Apr-2007 18:47
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Tony what have I told you about writing posts describing my friday nights? :P

I never saw police 10/7 but yes it generally is for their own safety. Although if you ask me, he should still have been able to refuse their help. Just because you're drunk doesn't mean you arent capable of reasoning.

Anyways, we live in a society where we are responsible for ourselves, and many people consider this to be a right. I am happy to have the right to refuse help from somebody if I'm in trouble.



 
 
 
 


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  # 66503 6-Apr-2007 19:53
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Wow, that was very descriptive Tony. Recounting one of your own stories perhaps? Tongue out

I'm sure 90% of us have been in a state where we would have been breaking the law by being intoxicated in public (not that I'm condoning this sort of behavior). Its best if its dealt with on an informal basis IMO so people in danger get a night to sleep it off and hopefully the fright of waking up in the cells will make sure they never do it again, leaving those who are actually disorderly to get charged.

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