How long until all service stations stop refilling lpg cylinders and go to cylinder swapping?

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#127353 7-Aug-2013 17:03

Hello all.
Just a question how long until all service stations stop refilling 4,5 and 9kg LPG cylinders and we have to switch to the swap-a-bottle service? I'm asking that because the Glenfield Road Mobil no longer fills LPG cylinders and they used to,BP and Caltex still fill LPG cylinders.

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#873339 7-Aug-2013 17:08

Not sure how this could be answered on Geekzone but I use to work at that Glenfield mobil years ago filling LPG bottles when a student

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#873345 7-Aug-2013 17:16

'Elf and Safety seem to be making it harder and harder to handle dangerous goods and go anywhere on the forecourt....

I would say in 2-3 years only specialist places will fill your own bottles, bottle swap will become the norm...

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#873352 7-Aug-2013 17:31

wellygary: 'Elf and Safety seem to be making it harder and harder to handle dangerous goods and go anywhere on the forecourt....

I would say in 2-3 years only specialist places will fill your own bottles, bottle swap will become the norm...

Okay your answer is a very good answer and what about consumers filling their own 5,10 and 20 litre petrol containers to fuel their mowers,weedwhackers.chainsaws,pressure washers and quad/dirtbikes or will H&S require them to get a service station staff member to fill it for them? Because petrol can be/is a dangerous good.

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#873920 8-Aug-2013 15:16

johnr: Not sure how this could be answered on Geekzone but I use to work at that Glenfield mobil years ago filling LPG bottles when a student

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#873943 8-Aug-2013 15:36

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#873949 8-Aug-2013 15:43

Here in Melbourne, I don't think there are any that do it any more. Costs of safety compliance, LPG storage etc too high so everyone just has a bottle swap service.

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#873950 8-Aug-2013 15:43

Techwarrior:
wellygary: 'Elf and Safety seem to be making it harder and harder to handle dangerous goods and go anywhere on the forecourt....

I would say in 2-3 years only specialist places will fill your own bottles, bottle swap will become the norm...

Okay your answer is a very good answer and what about consumers filling their own 5,10 and 20 litre petrol containers to fuel their mowers,weedwhackers.chainsaws,pressure washers and quad/dirtbikes or will H&S require them to get a service station staff member to fill it for them? Because petrol can be/is a dangerous good.

Yes it is, but unlike LPG, its not under pressure and doesn't require any special gear to use. I favour swappa bottle, as too much pain in the dead of winter waiting for a fill. Although I don't anymore, exceopt fopr BBQ, but if I did.

I know of one in Opawa, Christchurch that still fills.

Plus you will never have to rebuy due to an out of date bottle

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#873951 8-Aug-2013 15:44

tdgeek:
Techwarrior:
wellygary: 'Elf and Safety seem to be making it harder and harder to handle dangerous goods and go anywhere on the forecourt....

I would say in 2-3 years only specialist places will fill your own bottles, bottle swap will become the norm...

Okay your answer is a very good answer and what about consumers filling their own 5,10 and 20 litre petrol containers to fuel their mowers,weedwhackers.chainsaws,pressure washers and quad/dirtbikes or will H&S require them to get a service station staff member to fill it for them? Because petrol can be/is a dangerous good.

Yes it is, but unlike LPG, its not under pressure and doesn't require any special gear to use. I favour swappa bottle, as too much pain in the dead of winter waiting for a fill. Although I don't anymore, exceopt fopr BBQ, but if I did.

I know of one in Opawa, Christchurch that still fills.

Plus you will never have to rebuy due to an out of date bottle

Oh and it costs more, there is that, more so for those that use gas heaters regularly

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#873970 8-Aug-2013 16:01

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Oh and it costs more, there is that, more so for those that use gas heaters regularly

Usually lots more.. plenty of places fill a bottle for $25ish, whereas swappa bottle is more like $35

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#873973 8-Aug-2013 16:05

tdgeek:
tdgeek:
Techwarrior:
wellygary: 'Elf and Safety seem to be making it harder and harder to handle dangerous goods and go anywhere on the forecourt....

I would say in 2-3 years only specialist places will fill your own bottles, bottle swap will become the norm...

Okay your answer is a very good answer and what about consumers filling their own 5,10 and 20 litre petrol containers to fuel their mowers,weedwhackers.chainsaws,pressure washers and quad/dirtbikes or will H&S require them to get a service station staff member to fill it for them? Because petrol can be/is a dangerous good.

Yes it is, but unlike LPG, its not under pressure and doesn't require any special gear to use. I favour swappa bottle, as too much pain in the dead of winter waiting for a fill. Although I don't anymore, exceopt fopr BBQ, but if I did.

I know of one in Opawa, Christchurch that still fills.

Plus you will never have to rebuy due to an out of date bottle

Oh and it costs more, there is that, more so for those that use gas heaters regularly

Okay i get the whole 9kg swap-a-bottle thing but what about the smaller 2,4 and 5kg cylinders that Bunnings Warehouse sells for camping.Because i ain't that keen on those disposable butane canisters not to mention it's not that easy to dispose of the empty canisters cause you can't just thrown them in the garbage bin as far as i'm aware.
I would appreciate an answer regarding the 2,4 and 5kg cylinders how you would fill those if all service stations go to swap-a-bottle cause for camping a 2,4 or 5kg cylinder would definitely last longer than one of those disposable butane canisters.

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#873974 8-Aug-2013 16:07

Lias:
tdgeek:

Oh and it costs more, there is that, more so for those that use gas heaters regularly

Usually lots more.. plenty of places fill a bottle for $25ish, whereas swappa bottle is more like $35

Yes that sounds right. For the odd BBQ fillup its no biggie, but for regular users, it is more noticeable.

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#873977 8-Aug-2013 16:10

tdgeek:
Lias:
tdgeek:

Oh and it costs more, there is that, more so for those that use gas heaters regularly

Usually lots more.. plenty of places fill a bottle for $25ish, whereas swappa bottle is more like $35

Yes that sounds right. For the odd BBQ fillup its no biggie, but for regular users, it is more noticeable.

Yeah i noticed the last time i filled my bbq bottle up it was around the $25-29 for a fill at BP Wairau Road.

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#874007 8-Aug-2013 16:51

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Okay i get the whole 9kg swap-a-bottle thing but what about the smaller 2,4 and 5kg cylinders that Bunnings Warehouse sells for camping.Because i ain't that keen on those disposable butane canisters not to mention it's not that easy to dispose of the empty canisters cause you can't just thrown them in the garbage bin as far as i'm aware.

I've already struck a BP Service Station who told me they would not longer fill the small ones, only 9kg ones and sent me off to a Caltex several km away.

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#874013 8-Aug-2013 16:56

allan:
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Okay i get the whole 9kg swap-a-bottle thing but what about the smaller 2,4 and 5kg cylinders that Bunnings Warehouse sells for camping.Because i ain't that keen on those disposable butane canisters not to mention it's not that easy to dispose of the empty canisters cause you can't just thrown them in the garbage bin as far as i'm aware.

I've already struck a BP Service Station who told me they would not longer fill the small ones, only 9kg ones and sent me off to a Caltex several km away.

Why would they not fill the smallers ones? Cause all they need to do is swap out the filling adapter on the end of the filling hose.
If service stations stop filling the smallers ones and people don't want to haul around a heap of disposable butane canisters it's time to switch to white gas cookers and lanterns!! It's still sold in nz.