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coolcat21

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#130637 22-Sep-2013 20:29

Forgive me if this seems abit silly to post about.

But there was an article on NZ Herald discussing the new ACC proposal on charging drivers of older unsafe cars higher than cars that are save. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=11128210

I agree with the author if that means anything. But I was reading the comments and 1 comment made me mad. The person must be one of those daddy's girl or boy who grew up rich on their parent's dime and are now still being helped alot (probably working full time on his/her parents company)

Anyways, the screenshot of the comment is below ....i'm just angry.
http://snag.gy/jMxcd.jpg

On a side note, I do actually drive a 10 year old corolla. It's got 2 airbags, seatbelt pretensioner, abs, brake assist etc.

I bought the car quite cheap.

I"m not sure if under the new proposal it's considered "safe" or not. Hopefully yes.

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#900833 22-Sep-2013 20:31

i'll make it easier for readers

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#900834 22-Sep-2013 20:32

I seriously hope that person commenting is a "troll".

-Aidan.

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#900840 22-Sep-2013 20:40

"if you ring meticulous maids , they turn up in cars"

Um, wtf are they supposed to turn up in , ..a bicycle ? holding all their gears ?

I feel like I wanna be robin hood at the moment.

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#900858 22-Sep-2013 21:07

I think it's a pith take.

It’s not that I’m agoraphobic, it’s just not safe to go out anymore.

Keep calm, and carry on posting.

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#900860 22-Sep-2013 21:07

Someones sarcasm detector has failed.

My car is a 2001, it has airbags, ABS, and had heaps of stars for its time. Cost $3010. Drinks like a fish tho so I expect poor people wouldnt want one.

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#900885 22-Sep-2013 22:32

OP's username is not an accurate description. There is this thing on the internet called trolling...

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#900887 22-Sep-2013 22:41

coolcat21: Forgive me if this seems abit silly to post about.

But there was an article on NZ Herald discussing the new ACC proposal on charging drivers of older unsafe cars higher than cars that are save. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=11128210

I agree with the author if that means anything. But I was reading the comments and 1 comment made me mad. The person must be one of those daddy's girl or boy who grew up rich on their parent's dime and are now still being helped alot (probably working full time on his/her parents company)

Anyways, the screenshot of the comment is below ....i'm just angry.
http://snag.gy/jMxcd.jpg

On a side note, I do actually drive a 10 year old corolla. It's got 2 airbags, seatbelt pretensioner, abs, brake assist etc. I bought the car quite cheap. I"m not sure if under the new proposal it's considered "safe" or not. Hopefully yes.

ACC's idea is eminently sensible.

The comment sounds like it was written by an 18 year old British Public School boy. I know - I was one.

I was at Christmas drinks with our neighbours a year or two ago and their son, then about 19, was complaining bitterly because, despite his parents paying for him to spend 6 months in Japan, he was not being allowed to travel Business Class for the first time in his life.

I was at College with a number of wealthy young men, some of whom could be very obnoxious if they put their mind to it. I was in a pub once and overheard one of them remark loudly to a woman who had taken a slightly drunken shine to him which he was not reciprocating "If you don't p*ss off and leave me alone, I'll buy the bl**dy pub and have you evicted!". Amazingly at the age of about 21 he actually was wealthy enough to do so, as well!

There really are a lot of people like that in the world, it's just that people here are not used to interacting with them.

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#900889 22-Sep-2013 22:42

coolcat21: "if you ring meticulous maids , they turn up in cars"

Um, wtf are they supposed to turn up in , ..a bicycle ? holding all their gears ?

I feel like I wanna be robin hood at the moment.

I always imagined when I rang for the maid, she came up from the downstairs kitchen....

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#900893 22-Sep-2013 22:46

I wish they would scrap this whole retarded ACC on the car rego thing and move it to the person possessing the drivers licence, as right now it makes it very expensive to keep a second more efficiant car on the road as well as a larger one for doing weekend stuff. Then they can be charged based on accident risk profile and history, just like all the other insurance companies do, and if they are a dire driver, denied cover therefore denying them the privilege of driving.

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#900896 22-Sep-2013 23:00

richms: I wish they would scrap this whole retarded ACC on the car rego thing and move it to the person possessing the drivers licence, as right now it makes it very expensive to keep a second more efficiant car on the road as well as a larger one for doing weekend stuff. Then they can be charged based on accident risk profile and history, just like all the other insurance companies do, and if they are a dire driver, denied cover therefore denying them the privilege of driving.

If I'm honest I wish they'd scrap it period and make people have car insurance.

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#900897 22-Sep-2013 23:08

Geektastic:
coolcat21: Forgive me if this seems abit silly to post about.

But there was an article on NZ Herald discussing the new ACC proposal on charging drivers of older unsafe cars higher than cars that are save. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=11128210

I agree with the author if that means anything. But I was reading the comments and 1 comment made me mad. The person must be one of those daddy's girl or boy who grew up rich on their parent's dime and are now still being helped alot (probably working full time on his/her parents company)

Anyways, the screenshot of the comment is below ....i'm just angry.
http://snag.gy/jMxcd.jpg

On a side note, I do actually drive a 10 year old corolla. It's got 2 airbags, seatbelt pretensioner, abs, brake assist etc. I bought the car quite cheap. I"m not sure if under the new proposal it's considered "safe" or not. Hopefully yes.

ACC's idea is eminently sensible.

The comment sounds like it was written by an 18 year old British Public School boy. I know - I was one.

I was at Christmas drinks with our neighbours a year or two ago and their son, then about 19, was complaining bitterly because, despite his parents paying for him to spend 6 months in Japan, he was not being allowed to travel Business Class for the first time in his life.

I was at College with a number of wealthy young men, some of whom could be very obnoxious if they put their mind to it. I was in a pub once and overheard one of them remark loudly to a woman who had taken a slightly drunken shine to him which he was not reciprocating "If you don't p*ss off and leave me alone, I'll buy the bl**dy pub and have you evicted!". Amazingly at the age of about 21 he actually was wealthy enough to do so, as well!

There really are a lot of people like that in the world, it's just that people here are not used to interacting with them.

I want to visit Ireland someday.

And yep, i hate those kind of people you mention with a passion.
Boy if my parents paid for me to spend 6 months in japan, i'd offer to do their laundry, clean their cars, cook for them for a year.

The trip to Japan itself is potentially once in a lifetime thing (well for now) ..Japan is an amazing country. And now he wanted business class ? ...F--- that boy lol.

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#900898 22-Sep-2013 23:11

richms: Someones sarcasm detector has failed.

My car is a 2001, it has airbags, ABS, and had heaps of stars for its time. Cost $3010. Drinks like a fish tho so I expect poor people wouldnt want one.

I'm not sure the commenter was being sarcastic.

He was either being real or trolling.

Besides, sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet when it's as close to the real thing. ...There are actually people like that in NZ ya know..

And yea , Toyota's have had airbags in their jdm corolla since 96+ , abs too.

What car made in 2001 cost $3010 ? Must've been a high mileage one because i just sold my 1993 rolla for $2k , could've gotten more if i was willing to wait. I'd have thought a 2001 car is somewhere around 6K

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#900900 22-Sep-2013 23:24

As usual the devil will be in the detail. How will cars that are new but still unsafe be treated? The best example being the Mitsi L300 van. Brand new but no airbags, no abs brakes, no Electronic stability program. http://rightcar.govt.nz/find.html?srt=d&dir=a&q=1|28||2|1301||3|4013||&keywords=Mitsubishi%20L300&Make=Mitsubishi&Model=L300-Model&years=2010- Surely if the govt wants to increase the overall safety of the vehicle fleet they will introduce minimum crash safety ratings for new cars. They have frontal impact standards for used imports so it seems silly to not have any standards for brand new cars.

This affects me personally since Im provided with one as a company car. (Im a plumber / gasfitter). I feel safer driving my 1989 Corolla. Sure it doesn't have airbags, ABS brakes or ESP either. But at least it has a bigger crumple zone and the weight of the engine in front of you instead of behind and under you. Also the Corolla gets driven far less often than the L300.

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#900903 22-Sep-2013 23:49

Aredwood: This affects me personally since Im provided with one as a company car. (Im a plumber / gasfitter). I feel safer driving my 1989 Corolla. Sure it doesn't have airbags, ABS brakes or ESP either. But at least it has a bigger crumple zone and the weight of the engine in front of you instead of behind and under you. Also the Corolla gets driven far less often than the L300.

The Dog & Lemon guy was raising this point on radio last week. There are precedents that include vehicles as workplaces so he was asking why MBIE wasn't pursuing the safety aspects of L300 type forward control vans.

ACC was supposed to be "no fault". What will be the next step if they start putting vehicles into risk classes, a loading on engine power?

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#900907 23-Sep-2013 00:01

If I found out who wrote that comment they'll have another thing coming to them, I'm currently "poor" due to the fact I'm currently in a transition between jobs, I walk most places because I like exercise and also drive a Mitsubishi FTO GR, it's a bit hungry on fuel but I only use it when I have to use it.

Being Poor can come as a few things:
1) My situation, loss of job, transition into a new job taking longer than expected.
2) Not finding work out there.
3) Illness preventing you from working, government only giving you enough to get by.

But the most common thing for a rich person to do is to spend all their money on cars, jewellery, their house etc so they look rich to others, but you might find they can't afford the rates or the maintenance on their car(s) - they're literally wearing their money. When I worked in retail the most common scenario was you'll get staff that all go to the people who look like they have money but avoid the person in the corner looking at the expensive products because they thought he had no money,

1) The people who look wealthy are the ones that really have no money, most of the time they're wearing it, the sales reps almost never got any sales from these people.
2) The poor guy in the corner not getting served has a multi-million dollar business and needs these expensive products for his staff members, ensuring a huge sale, he does not wear his money, he stores it in the bank instead, I used to target these people in retail and was always the top salesperson.

More or less it's a stereotypical thing, I'm one of these guys who likes being left alone whilst going gadget shopping so dress in a tshirt and jandles, I never get served but I actually have money and know what I want, I taught this trick to my father and works every time with him, doesn't get nagged by salespeople but when he asks he get's the best service out (and teaches the sales person a trick or two about approaching all customers in the future)

Anyway, to conclude my rant, I hate most humans on this planet. I hope the guy who wrote that reply has karma come and knock on his door.

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