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#130703 24-Sep-2013 22:19
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"It is the tannoy announcement that makes many airline passengers’ hearts sink: just as you’re enjoying an absorbing film or eBook, the pilot tells you to turn off your portable device because the plane is landing.

 

Now America’s aviation watchdog is poised to make many electronically-savvy passengers very happy by relaxing the rules for the first time.

 

After consulting the latest safety advice, an advisory panel of the Federal Aviation Administration is expected to relax many of the restrictions from as early as next year. Along with reading e-books, activities such as listening to podcasts and watching videos are likely to be permitted.

 

Bans on phone calls, sending and receiving text messages and using wi-fi during take-ff and landing will remain.

 

Scores of instances where pilots suspect that devices have interfered with cockpit instruments have been logged in recent years. However, no conclusive evidence has established a dangerous link with passenger gadgets."





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  #902185 25-Sep-2013 07:45
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This is a actually going to be a recommendation from a committee to the FCC. Then it needs to be approved. Then it needs to be regulated. By the time it reaches New Zealand we will be reading eBooks directly in our brains...







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  #902192 25-Sep-2013 07:46
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Nevertheless it is a small victory for common sense!





 
 
 
 


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Given that take-off and landing are the two riskiest times for an aircraft, I'd quite like the people around me to:
1. Be able to hear any urgent announcments from the cabin crew.
2. Not have to trip over a number of electronic items/power/headset cables on a hasty evac from a plane.

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  #902219 25-Sep-2013 08:56
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eReaders are the one thing I don't really understand (having to turn off).

My one (Kindle) is never actually 'off', just showing the screen saver image instead of a typed page and the buttons are disabled.

The other thing people don't have to switch off, but following the logic, they should have to switch off, are Noise Cancelling headphones - after all, they are an electronic device.

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  #902243 25-Sep-2013 09:51
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be lovely when they approve phones and we have to listen to someone else's conversation/s phones ringing notification sounds for txt etc etc.





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  #902245 25-Sep-2013 09:52
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I've been asked to turn noise cancelling headphones off. Kindles have WiFi receivers, which are turned off when the screen is off.

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  #902269 25-Sep-2013 10:24
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jeffnz: be lovely when they approve phones and we have to listen to someone else's conversation/s phones ringing notification sounds for txt etc etc.



I don't mind having electronic device on - ebook readers for example or smartphones for those reading apps. Obviously not for voice conversations though - wouldn't be great to listen to some self-important specimen to keep saying in a loud voice how his friend of a friend knows the PM's driver, or something like that?

On another note, walk into a Koru Lounge any time and it automatically creates a Cone of Silence - or so it seems, based on the number of private and confidential conversations overheard over the years. People seem to completely forget there are other people around and talk some very confidential stuff loudly on the phone when in the Koru/airline lounges around the world...






 
 
 
 


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  #902290 25-Sep-2013 10:33
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The whole thing's a crock of s***. If these devices interfered so much with instrumentation, many flights out of many ports worldwide would have had their fair share of terrorists on board with live devices...



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  #902291 25-Sep-2013 10:34
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timmmay: I've been asked to turn noise cancelling headphones off. Kindles have WiFi receivers, which are turned off when the screen is off.


Kindles also have 'Airplane Mode' (sic) which ought to enable you to read the whole time I would say.







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  #902295 25-Sep-2013 10:36
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Dratsab: The whole thing's a crock of s***. If these devices interfered so much with instrumentation, many flights out of many ports worldwide would have had their fair share of terrorists on board with live devices...


You're not wrong. If they were genuinely felt to be so risky then even carrying them in your handluggage would be banned like handguns are banned from hand luggage (you can put them in checked luggage without ammunition)





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  #902303 25-Sep-2013 10:44
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I have the Radio off on my Kindle the whole time anyway (unless I need it to load books). Saves battery. I'm happy to put it away while they say I have to.

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  #902309 25-Sep-2013 10:57
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trig42: I have the Radio off on my Kindle the whole time anyway (unless I need it to load books). Saves battery. I'm happy to put it away while they say I have to.


Problem is that from gate to "ON" and from "OFF" to gate in a short flight we're talking about 30 minutes at least. A lot of time doing nothing when the book is just there... 

I agree laptops for example shouldn't be allowed though - they need to be open and would impact negatively in case of an emergency evacuation during take off/landing. But an eBook reader? A phone? 






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  #902326 25-Sep-2013 11:03
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One of the most important things to ensure safety in commercial flight is clear communication between the pilots, ground control, and other pilots.

15 minutes with your device off won't kill you but a miscommunication might.

First world problems.

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  #902329 25-Sep-2013 11:11
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Saying that, do you have evidence miscommunications happen as a consequence of electronic devices left on during these moments?




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  #902340 25-Sep-2013 11:28
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When I put my cellphone next to a speaker I can hear interference. If there are hundreds of transmitting devices on the thousands of flights every day then there is potential for interference.

My point is more risk vs reward. For me (and granted this may not be the case for everybody) it's an extremely minor inconvenience to turn my device off during takeoff and landing. We have one or two guys flying the plane and personally I want them to have as uneventful landing and takeoff as possible.........because they're probably drunk ;-)

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