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#133782 1-Nov-2013 22:27
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Hello,

Is there any place that sells pink grapefruit in NZ (ideally Auckland but I can pay for postage if need be).
I can't find it anywhere, all usual suspects have only NZ Grapefruit which is quite different than the Pink one (found in Australia/US/Europe).

Thanks.

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  #926081 1-Nov-2013 23:15
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I've seen them in supermarkets and fruit n veg shops in South Auckland in the past, but your timing might be out unless there's some chilled/frozen stock still around. Season is about over in NZ I think.



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  #926261 2-Nov-2013 14:11
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Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.

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BigHammer: I've seen them in supermarkets and fruit n veg shops in South Auckland in the past, but your timing might be out unless there's some chilled/frozen stock still around. Season is about over in NZ I think.


I thought pink grapefruits were a fallacy? I clearly haven't lived!



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  #926274 2-Nov-2013 14:58
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This is what I'm after :)

http://loseweightandgainhealth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pink-grapefruit.jpg

This particular one is easily peeled and has a different taste to the NZ one.

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tcpdump: This is what I'm after :)

http://loseweightandgainhealth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pink-grapefruit.jpg

This particular one is easily peeled and has a different taste to the NZ one.


Now I want one!!

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  #926322 2-Nov-2013 17:19
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tcpdump: Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.



I was talking about the pink variety. They've been sold next to the NZ variants in veggie shops etc during our grapefruit season.

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  #926327 2-Nov-2013 17:32
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tcpdump: Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.


Grapefruit are not imported into NZ from South America. Stock from Australia or the USA is imported depending on the time of the year.

There are also multiple variants of grapefruit in NZ, but pink isn't that common because it originates from from US rootstock that is patented.

 
 
 

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  #926328 2-Nov-2013 17:36
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I've seen pink grapefruits in the supermarket loads of times. I only shop at New World though...

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sbiddle:
tcpdump: Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.


Grapefruit are not imported into NZ from South America. Stock from Australia or the USA is imported depending on the time of the year.

There are also multiple variants of grapefruit in NZ, but pink isn't that common because it originates from from US rootstock that is patented.


what next patenting a grapefruit. Does that mean if I grow a tree in my back yard, I have to pay royalties ;-)

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I don't like the pink grapefruit. Just thought I'd mention that.

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  #926453 3-Nov-2013 07:47
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thecatsgoolies:
sbiddle:
tcpdump: Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.


Grapefruit are not imported into NZ from South America. Stock from Australia or the USA is imported depending on the time of the year.

There are also multiple variants of grapefruit in NZ, but pink isn't that common because it originates from from US rootstock that is patented.


what next patenting a grapefruit. Does that mean if I grow a tree in my back yard, I have to pay royalties ;-)


It means to buy the plant stock you're paying significant royalties to the owner of the patent, and then sometimes ongoing royalties for the fruit. You wouldn't be able to grow a pink grapefruit in your back yard using one of the US varieties because you wouldn't be able to buy the product in the first place.

This is no different to many other varieties of fruit in the world. Pacific Rose apples for example were tightly controlled by EZNA and Hort Research since their commercial release in 1995. As of a few months ago you can now buy Pacific Rose from a garden centre to grow yourself after the 20 year patent on this expired. You can't go into a garden centre and buy any of the big brand modern apples such as Eve, Envy or Jazz for exactly the same reasons. A huge amount of time and effort goes into cross breeding these varieties and establishing how they will work on different rootstock so they are patented to stop foreign growers ripping off our products.


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  #926457 3-Nov-2013 08:19
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sbiddle:
thecatsgoolies:
sbiddle:
tcpdump: Thanks but I'm actually looking for the Non-NZ grape fruit (which is not the pink one), I'm after some grapefruit imported either from South America or Australia.


Grapefruit are not imported into NZ from South America. Stock from Australia or the USA is imported depending on the time of the year.

There are also multiple variants of grapefruit in NZ, but pink isn't that common because it originates from from US rootstock that is patented.


what next patenting a grapefruit. Does that mean if I grow a tree in my back yard, I have to pay royalties ;-)


It means to buy the plant stock you're paying significant royalties to the owner of the patent, and then sometimes ongoing royalties for the fruit. You wouldn't be able to grow a pink grapefruit in your back yard using one of the US varieties because you wouldn't be able to buy the product in the first place.

This is no different to many other varieties of fruit in the world. Pacific Rose apples for example were tightly controlled by EZNA and Hort Research since their commercial release in 1995. As of a few months ago you can now buy Pacific Rose from a garden centre to grow yourself after the 20 year patent on this expired. You can't go into a garden centre and buy any of the big brand modern apples such as Eve, Envy or Jazz for exactly the same reasons. A huge amount of time and effort goes into cross breeding these varieties and establishing how they will work on different rootstock so they are patented to stop foreign growers ripping off our products.



Ditto what Mr Biddle said, it also extends to ornamental varieties of plants as well http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/pvr/what-is-a-plant-variety-right-pvr

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  #926458 3-Nov-2013 08:44
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If you just want Pink Grapefruit juice there is usually plenty of that on the supermarket shelves




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  #926665 3-Nov-2013 18:53
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Thanks all. I'm after the whole fruit rather than just the juice.

So my best bet is still trying the supermarkets during a certain period of the year. From previous experience, when would that be?


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