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#144159 9-May-2014 10:05

I imagine the NZ Herald paywall is going to open the floodgates.

I'm not too sure how I feel about this... If I have to pay for news, I'd expect good quality, factual news.

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#1040656 9-May-2014 10:10

So, they expect us to pay to see advertising? Goodo, won't bother then.

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#1040659 9-May-2014 10:13

Before electronic media we paid for news inclusive of Advertising, it was called the Newspaper subscription or cover charge. It kinda baffles me that many think just because its on the interwebz it should be free.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1040662 9-May-2014 10:15

KiwiNZ: Before electronic media we paid for news inclusive of Advertising, it was called the Newspaper subscription or cover charge. It kinda baffles me that many think just because its on the interwebz it should be free.

In my opinion, the standard of reporting and journalism has decreased substantially though. I'd pay if I had any confidence in the accuracy, quality and neutrality of the reporting, but I don't. Many of the articles are, as far as I'm concerned, simply additional advertising.

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#1040666 9-May-2014 10:27

Inphinity:
KiwiNZ: Before electronic media we paid for news inclusive of Advertising, it was called the Newspaper subscription or cover charge. It kinda baffles me that many think just because its on the interwebz it should be free.

In my opinion, the standard of reporting and journalism has decreased substantially though. I'd pay if I had any confidence in the accuracy, quality and neutrality of the reporting, but I don't. Many of the articles are, as far as I'm concerned, simply additional advertising.

Well I guess that is the problem right there.
Fewer people buying less newspapers = less money for paying journalists = less local investigative journalism

But they have made it free for quite a while now - so people dont want to start paying for something they currently get for free.

Its called a viscious circle. (or catch-22).

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#1040667 9-May-2014 10:27

Inphinity:
In my opinion, the standard of reporting and journalism has decreased substantially though. I'd pay if I had any confidence in the accuracy, quality and neutrality of the reporting, but I don't. Many of the articles are, as far as I'm concerned, simply additional advertising.

Agreed. Over the past decade the quality has really decreased. It seems as if they don't even proof read articles any more. I have often found incorrect information in the articles or bias, opinionated articles which don't have a disclaimer saying so.

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#1040671 9-May-2014 10:30

When (if) this happens, I'll just go back to reading the hard copy for free at work...

There are other sources for (the same) news as well, sources that are likely to remain free...

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#1040672 9-May-2014 10:31

Yeah.. Nah..

I'm a geek, a gamer, a dad, a Quic user, and an IT Professional. I have a full rack home lab, size 15 feet, an epic beard and Asperger's. I'm a bit of a Cypherpunk, who believes information wants to be free and the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. If you use my Quic signup you can also use the code R570394EKGIZ8 for free setup. Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.

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#1040674 9-May-2014 10:32

We got rung up last week to get the Herald delivered for 3 weeks free. Well after the first week there's no way I would subscribe to it again or pay them via a paywall. Tabloid by size and by nature

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#1040675 9-May-2014 10:33

NZ Herald....
Reports terrible stories based on opinion.
Statistics they find are extremely bias to the party they support.
They all seem to use the old CTRL+C and CTRL+V trick when posting stories that are also available on other sites.
Bloated with horrible ads
Only tell us of people that have been murdered or someone convicted of something or over hyped weather conditions.
Who would EVER pay to look at a website that provides you with nothing that would ever benefit your life?
I wouldnt. Nor would i let their data mining app on my phone.

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#1040689 9-May-2014 10:38

TimA: They all seem to use the old CTRL+C and CTRL+V trick when posting stories that are also available on other sites.

I recently saw one they copied and pasted from the ODT, but changed the title to absolutely contradict the article. They don't even read before they copy/paste...

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#1040708 9-May-2014 10:42

TimA: NZ Herald....
Reports terrible stories based on opinion.
Statistics they find are extremely bias to the party they support.
They all seem to use the old CTRL+C and CTRL+V trick when posting stories that are also available on other sites.
Bloated with horrible ads
Only tell us of people that have been murdered or someone convicted of something or over hyped weather conditions.
Who would EVER pay to look at a website that provides you with nothing that would ever benefit your life?
I wouldnt. Nor would i let their data mining app on my phone.

Ones perception of accuracy is often swayed by ones own bias with regards to the subject matter. Fact is fickle.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1040709 9-May-2014 10:44

Hey guys

Im not sure if anyone else has noticed this, I read the Sydney Morning Herald, Telegraph and other papers online daily, two papers I have mentioned have a paywall, if I read them in a normal Chrome window, after 10 articles, it doesnt allow you to read further.

Once I switch to incognito, then those same sites are available with no limit on the number of articles, so the paywall does not take effect at all

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#1040710 9-May-2014 10:49

It depends on the subscription charge level.

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#1040712 9-May-2014 10:57

The new exec looks nothing like a wreaking ball, and with a strong marketing background will be in a good position to return news to it's roots in a digital age. This could be very positive for news in NZ. There is a market for it.

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#1040715 9-May-2014 11:01

These things are cyclical and will come and go every few years as each new COO/CFO/CEO tries to make his/her mark.

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