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Topic # 145515 20-May-2014 12:36
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Hi guys,

Lately we have been having quite a few flies come in, even when we think they are all gone new ones appear. We have bought a couple from the supermarket, Raid/Mortein but don't really seem to be doing too much.

Can anybody suggest one that actually works? Something where you can spray the fly and it will die, not something you have to spray over and over again for little-no result.

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  Reply # 1048747 20-May-2014 12:41
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I share your frustration.

I'm wondering if they've reduced the toxins, chemicals, etc. in flysprays to be more environmentally friendly or less allergenic.  Can anyone confirm?





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  Reply # 1048750 20-May-2014 12:45
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I can confirm that they are currently so non-toxic that flies getting a direct hit suffer apparently nothing more severe than a mild headache and a desire for a lie down and a nice warm cup of puke.




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  Reply # 1048756 20-May-2014 12:57
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SaltyNZ: I can confirm that they are currently so non-toxic that flies getting a direct hit suffer apparently nothing more severe than a mild headache and a desire for a lie down and a nice warm cup of puke.


The best insect spray I've ever seen was carried by Telstra installers and linesmen in Qld to fight off the much feared “buzzy bee”.

A pressurised “pistol” on a spray can with some type of oily insecticide in it.
The oil coated their wings and immediately knocked them down, they twitched and died.

I'm sure it wasn't safe to drink.

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  Reply # 1048757 20-May-2014 12:57
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The Home Brand ones seem better than the 'big brands' these days imo.




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  Reply # 1048759 20-May-2014 12:58
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It seems to depend on type of fly. Some take the hit and just die quietly while others go into a hyperactive mode giving instant feedback.

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  Reply # 1048778 20-May-2014 13:08
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I have fly-swat's in strategic locations around the house.
During the peak season I run one of those auto-on-a-timer sprays. This slows em down enough that I can swat em, but generally I avoid using sprays.
They will gradually build immunity to insecticide and I choose not to accellerate this process.  Swatting is effective if you know what you're doing.
Really want fly-screens but have a rental property which makes this hard.




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  Reply # 1048790 20-May-2014 13:29
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Sidestep:
The best insect spray I've ever seen was carried by Telstra installers and linesmen in Qld to fight off the much feared “buzzy bee”.



Well, to be fair, the Queensland Buzzy Bee is a notoriously vicious and cunning apex predator, known to hunt in coordinated pairs. Ever wonder why you never see sharks roosting on phone lines in Queensland? Buzzy Bees, mate. They can launch their stingers (not to be confused with FIM-92s, which are an entirely different sort of stinger) in a lock-on-after-launch mode from a range of up to 8,500m whilst hidden behind convenient cover to stay below shark-radar.




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  Reply # 1048811 20-May-2014 14:01
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Inphinity: The Home Brand ones seem better than the 'big brands' these days imo.


Found this as well..marginally.

Products have got so environmentally friendly it has become useless, much like the Green's (Doh! - did I say that out loud?)

 




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  Reply # 1049799 20-May-2014 14:36
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SaltyNZ:
Sidestep:
The best insect spray I've ever seen was carried by Telstra installers and linesmen in Qld to fight off the much feared “buzzy bee”.



Well, to be fair, the Queensland Buzzy Bee is a notoriously vicious and cunning apex predator, known to hunt in coordinated pairs. Ever wonder why you never see sharks roosting on phone lines in Queensland? Buzzy Bees, mate. They can launch their stingers (not to be confused with FIM-92s, which are an entirely different sort of stinger) in a lock-on-after-launch mode from a range of up to 8,500m whilst hidden behind convenient cover to stay below shark-radar.


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  Reply # 1049800 20-May-2014 14:39
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Cats, mine wait until they are on a window or low surface and them pin them down with their paws before eating them. A bit gross to watch but it does the trick.

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  Reply # 1049833 20-May-2014 15:19
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best thing I have ever run into for the fight against flies - Zap Bat....electric fly swot - quick and painless (for me)...plus a certain amount of satisfaction from the smoke and light show :)
Have not used fly sprays in the 4-5 years of having this device :)

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  Reply # 1049841 20-May-2014 15:28
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Vacuum Cleaners work wonders. I just stalk them and suck em' up.




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  Reply # 1049844 20-May-2014 15:32
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I was at some South African born Kiwi friends place recently and they had their mother country leather fly swat in action. Now that is an effective swat. I do like the satisfaction of the electric swat tho, especially the smoke. Yes I agree re the effectiveness of 'modern' fly spray. Swatting them with the can may be more reliable.

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  Reply # 1049845 20-May-2014 15:34
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There's an ingredient in some fly spays - piperonyl butoxide - which acts as a synergist with the other ingredients, usually pyrethrum (natural) or synthetic pyrethroids.
I don't have a problem with either the natural or syntheitic pyrethroids, but there are some big question marks hanging over the safety of piperonyl butoxide long-term exposure through use in household insecticides.
Some of the large corporates have quietly withdrawn formulations using this chemical, although it may still be used in some products.
And that's one of the reasons why flies don't drop dead as quickly as they used to do.  The other reason is that we humans through use of fly-spray have encouraged resistance to pyrethroids in house flies, most formulations will use two (or more) actives (often different pyrethroids) to minimise development of resistance.

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  Reply # 1049850 20-May-2014 15:43
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Inphinity: The Home Brand ones seem better than the 'big brands' these days imo.


This for the reason I give above.  The large US-based corporates have quietly withdrawn one "active" ingredient from household fly spray.
Smaller toll manufacturers doing "home brands" still use it.
I don't know if this was because of some consumer or media pressure (US), or if they decided to do it entirely voluntarily because of long-term liability, a cynic might say that the companies using it most might know more about this than others.

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