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Topic # 147465 20-Jun-2014 10:08
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Could someone clarify since TM supports seems to be going out of it's way to be vague. 

I have a personal trademe account, but I also use this to sell items we get back from customers replaced with new stuff, as a method of disposal (which is sold by my company). It's all second hand or older technology related items. I also use the account for my personal acquisitions. 

Do I need to declare myself in trade? I am not that excited about starting a new account, as it means I go back to 0 feedback etc.

We don't sell new stuff as a matter of course related to the business. It's not "resale" as such since we don't pay for the gear.

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  Reply # 1069767 20-Jun-2014 10:08
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Hmmmm. Here we go.




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  Reply # 1069776 20-Jun-2014 09:33
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Best way is ...

If you are selling old books, shoes, DVD's you have purchased used and no longer want that is not "in trade"
If you are buying Books, Shoes, DVD's for the purpose of reselling that is "in trade"




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  Reply # 1069778 20-Jun-2014 09:34
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Pretty sure you dont need to declare your account as "IN Trade", all you need to do is make sure you state it in any auction that you are making on behalf of your company.

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  Reply # 1069779 20-Jun-2014 09:34
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I suspect you still need to declare that you are a business when selling the used items.

If I was you I would NOT set the "Trade" setting in Trade Me, I'd just say on the business related listings that for that item you are a business selling a used item.

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  Reply # 1070780 20-Jun-2014 09:54
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HI,

From trademe's page on "In Trade"

www.trademe.co.nz/help/786/in-trade-disclosure


What if I want to sell personal items on Trade Me and still be in trade?

Trade Me allows you to have more than one membership if additional memberships are for business purposes.

You should only have one personal membership. You have the option of setting up additional memberships for business purposes. If you operate more than one business on Trade Me, you may be able to have an additional membership for each business.

If you want to sell your personal items on Trade Me as well as selling items in trade, you have a couple of options:

Set up a new membership for business purposes – i.e., selling in trade, or,
Change your in trade status from your my Trade Me page if you’re selling in trade.
You also have the option to keep using your existing membership, but clearly disclose within the listing details when you’re selling items in trade.

This could be the option for you if you don’t sell stuff in trade very often, but you’re selling these items at the same time as selling personal items, and think it’s a hassle to have more than one Trade Me membership.

However, when you sell in trade, you still need to disclose you’re selling an item in trade. You can do this by including clear wording within the listing details, which states that you’re selling the item in trade.

If you choose to turn your in trade status on and off (depending on the items you have for sale on Trade Me), Trade Me’s system will record when the change in status occurred.

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  Reply # 1070892 20-Jun-2014 12:07
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You simply need to state that you are in trade on the listing details for those that you are in trade for. Also for those you are not in trade for you might like to state they are a private sale to be absolutelyt clear.





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  Reply # 1070894 20-Jun-2014 12:11
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what are the CGA obligations for 2nd hand traders? eg if i bought a camera from a pawn shop on trademe ?

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  Reply # 1070929 20-Jun-2014 12:44
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joker97: what are the CGA obligations for 2nd hand traders? eg if i bought a camera from a pawn shop on trademe ?

The CGA covers goods that are second hand assuming that the seller is "in trade".

Consumer.org.nz

"The Act covers the goods (new and second-hand) and services ordinarily purchased for personal, domestic or household use."

http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/consumer-guarantees-act/what-it-covers


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  Reply # 1071080 20-Jun-2014 15:51
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I run pre orders for a select group of toys that the New Zealand supplier refuses to sell here
I am now 'in trade' and have had to completely change my ways to accommodate the changes (I don't do this as a business, there is no profit for me at all)



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  Reply # 1071084 20-Jun-2014 15:54
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nzkiwiman: I run pre orders for a select group of toys that the New Zealand supplier refuses to sell here
I am now 'in trade' and have had to completely change my ways to accommodate the changes (I don't do this as a business, there is no profit for me at all)


One might wonder why you bother? All that risk and liability for $0.

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  Reply # 1071232 20-Jun-2014 18:42
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So if a camera that is of unknown age is bought, how much warranty do I get? Say new price is $1500 sold for $800

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  Reply # 1071235 20-Jun-2014 18:46
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joker97: So if a camera that is of unknown age is bought, how much warranty do I get? Say new price is $1500 sold for $800


The CGA does not specify fixed time frames (unfortunately).

If you believe that the camera has failed in an unreasonable time, then you should approach the vendor.  If they disagree, then you need to go to the Disputes Tribunal in all practicality.





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  Reply # 1071238 20-Jun-2014 18:47
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joker97: So if a camera that is of unknown age is bought, how much warranty do I get? Say new price is $1500 sold for $800


That's the thing with the CGA, it's left open ended to ensure that all possible situations are catered for. Goods should last for a "reasonable" period of time. So for a second hand camera, maybe 1-3 years I would expect?

If you believe it's within a reasonable period of time then approach the seller, if they don't want to help then you can always go to the disputes tribunal where they can provide a bias free, enforced solution.

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  Reply # 1071280 20-Jun-2014 20:32
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wow bad news for pawn shop owners with the geekzone lot bearing down!



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  Reply # 1071333 20-Jun-2014 22:22
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So the seller of a second hand item is now responsible for the "reasonable" life of a component. Insanity. Or is it that the Manufacturer is still responsible even if it's been resold? 

How would they get around the whole, warranty is valid only to the original purchaser?


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