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#148984 7-Jul-2014 16:40

Anyone watched this, and what do you think?

I'm in ChCh and I thought the eq sequences were realistic, albeit too short, but too much focus on bad people. What about the good people helping others? I saw lots if that and did that, I feel it was distorted .

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#1082551 7-Jul-2014 16:50

I had to keep telling myself that it's just inspired by the actual events.

At the end of episode 1 I was disappointed and won't be watching any more.

I think I was most disappointed for those who didn't live through it. It is definitely a Nth Islanders cliched view of Christchurch and cliched view of the events that occurred as far as I am concerned.

I am surprised there's been no discussion on this!

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#1082556 7-Jul-2014 16:54

Same, it made the experience look bad. Punching a chick, focussing on drunks. I'm embarrassed. Some parts wee good, but WTF

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#1082568 7-Jul-2014 17:18

Hated it to start with, enjoyed the middle part and then got annoyed with character stereotypes. Could have been done a lot better

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#1082578 7-Jul-2014 17:56

I saw the shorts and was going to watch, but something changed my mind so did not, I might watch it some time in the future, but not now, and yep I'm from CHC too.

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#1082579 7-Jul-2014 18:00

The issue is us ChCh people can comment, my concern is non ChCh people will write the scenario off.

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#1082580 7-Jul-2014 18:01

And when, not if, this will happen elsewhere on NZ

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#1082619 7-Jul-2014 18:53

More good would have done for Christchurch if the $5 million spent on had been donated to charity.

I don't think anybody would have felt better for watching it except chardonnay socialists.

It is awaiting your rating
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3779610/

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#1083960 8-Jul-2014 10:41

I'm from ChCh and I didn't enjoy it.

Not because it felt raw, or jarring, or that it brought anything back... because of the hammy acting. It just felt like a bunch of people pretending do go through what we did and it felt forced and insincere. A bit too "Shortland St" for my liking.

I watched it purely for the footage I'd not seen before.

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#1083973 8-Jul-2014 10:52

A lot of the critics are harsh without remembering what the backing behind it is.

We have been in 4 years of strife. Without an accurate timeline of at least 2 years of programming, there is only so much of our timeline that can be crammed into a 6hr series to accurately reflect what has been through. And of course anyone who has, will be its worst critic. Whether we had been part of the personal experience expressed or not.

I never watched it with any great expectations, and it didn't overwhelm me as bad/good because of that fact. I took it at face value and just watched without casting too much judgement (with the view of someone who had not experienced it, although I very much had) - It was never meant to be a documentary, therefore didn't expect it to be accurate. It is afterall a DRAMA series, INSPIRED by stories of what occurred.

Not a solid 'this is what happened in CHC' scenario to show the rest of the world. I likened it to above, shortland st with quakes thrown in. Much in the same way they slip in real life situations and holiday timing etc in that show.

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#1083979 8-Jul-2014 11:02

I took it as a doco/drama. EQ wise it was quite accurate but the portrayal of the average citizen was off base. An unusual ratio of good people and bad people. The time devoted to the punks ripping off booze and punching the girl. The exec who flirts. The hammy acting and comments by the english retiree. The key is the efforts of all banding together in individual streets. The negatives can be shown, but in context and in the correct ratio. I imagined I was from overseas, it casts a poor light on ChCh lifestyle and NZ as a whole. Just my opinion.

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#1083984 8-Jul-2014 11:09

bfginger: More good would have done for Christchurch if the $5 million spent on had been donated to charity.

I don't think anybody would have felt better for watching it except chardonnay socialists.

It is awaiting your rating
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3779610/

People seem to be quick to say that, completely forgetting other such programs beforehand have been a LOT worse and money could have been better spent elsewhere. The GC for one, X-factor (where a lot of the cut goes back to the series rights holder!) and numerous other spinoff shows and cancelled productions, who got the cash but who had very little to show for the effort.

The funds are afterall from a pre-allocated pool amount at the start of the budget year, if they didn't get the portion they did, something else as equally worse may well have.

http://www.nzonair.govt.nz/search/funding/television/national-tv/latest#results

$4.2m on a prime show even... don't know about you but I don't switch to prime much http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/couch-potato/9969511/Brokenwood-Mysteries-destined-for-success

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#1084047 8-Jul-2014 12:23

If it opened with the street party then over the first 5 mins panned back to a damaged suburb would have worked well. The every one chipped in fridge stuff then moved to freezer stuff as you had no power was spot on.

But the stupid stereotype (the city is not rampant with skin heads or drunks on streets) and the picks for cast were way off (did they even visit the suburb they screened and look at the racial heritage of the people who lived there)? The after shocks all the time were not shown nor was the way people pitched in (to demean the Student Army as just after sex meet ups was disgusting).

Unforgivable crap.

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#1084242 8-Jul-2014 16:46

I don't think it's too bad at all.
People are very critical of it because of the stereotypes portrayed.
I do not agree with them - I get around all over Chch and have lived overseas and traveled the world - and the stereotypes are bang-on.
If this makes conservative NZers from all walks of life very uncomfortable - then that's a damned good thing (only it would be a shame if they don't watch it for that reason).
Many people live very sheltered lives these days, in suburbs full of the same type of people, with friends from the same social classes.
They should get around more if they don't believe characters as portrayed exist. They surely do.
The illusion (delusion - as there may have never truly been one) of an egalitarian society in NZ died decades ago.
If there's been one good thing from these quakes - it's been that in some cases barriers have broken down.

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#1084263 8-Jul-2014 17:24

Fred99: I don't think it's too bad at all.
People are very critical of it because of the stereotypes portrayed.
I do not agree with them - I get around all over Chch and have lived overseas and traveled the world - and the stereotypes are bang-on.
If this makes conservative NZers from all walks of life very uncomfortable - then that's a damned good thing (only it would be a shame if they don't watch it for that reason).
Many people live very sheltered lives these days, in suburbs full of the same type of people, with friends from the same social classes.
They should get around more if they don't believe characters as portrayed exist. They surely do.
The illusion (delusion - as there may have never truly been one) of an egalitarian society in NZ died decades ago.
If there's been one good thing from these quakes - it's been that in some cases barriers have broken down.

The stereotypes are bang on, but do they represent a heavy share of ChCh citizens as portrayed on the episode?

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#1086045 9-Jul-2014 21:06

I thought tv3 had screwed up and aired once we're worriors in the first 1 min or so, had its good bits, but they were thin and far between. someone mentioned a 4 million dollar budget, where did the remaining 3900000 go? let's hope it gets back on track tomorrow.