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#150395 21-Jul-2014 12:29

Thought this poll was interesting. Red clearly represents National Supporters, Yellow. Labour Supporters. :)

I'd be seriously unhappy if the leader of my preferred party was on holiday whilst polling so badly. Doesn't seem smart to me.

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#1092966 21-Jul-2014 12:55

Yes, please do David. Give John key even more reason to win. (My preferred leader)
^Silly idea, but he has been a little "weird" recently.

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#1092968 21-Jul-2014 12:57

Personally, I'd prefer to see Cunliffe take an extended holiday. Come back Shearer, all is forgiven!

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#1092969 21-Jul-2014 13:00

TimA: Yes, please do David. Give John key even more reason to win. (My preferred leader)
^Silly idea, but he has been a little "weird" recently.

I'm with you. I can't understand Labour right now. They just stumble at every step. A lot of opposition for oppositions sakes, which I despise in general.

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#1092970 21-Jul-2014 13:02

dafman: Personally, I'd prefer to see Cunliffe take an extended holiday. Come back Shearer, all is forgiven!

I agree Cunliffe was a bad choice as leader. I didn't mind Goff as a leader, my problem was he was opposing for opposings sakes. I am not a Labour supporter but I was keen for him to take the reigns from Clark, had conversed with him a few times. The issue was when he took power, he did nothing of value with it.

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#1092997 21-Jul-2014 13:49

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dafman: Personally, I'd prefer to see Cunliffe take an extended holiday. Come back Shearer, all is forgiven!

I agree Cunliffe was a bad choice as leader. I didn't mind Goff as a leader, my problem was he was opposing for opposings sakes. I am not a Labour supporter but I was keen for him to take the reigns from Clark, had conversed with him a few times. The issue was when he took power, he did nothing of value with it.

Problem is that Goff didn't resonate with voters. Shearer kept stumbling and looked like he was really struggling, but presents a lot better now that the pressure of leadership is off him. I think he would be a very good leader to go up against Key, they just chose him too soon. Grant Robertson is likely to step into the mess Cunliffe leaves behind. He's the best speaker, and quickest on his feet, but not too popular with the homophobes in the provinces (but hopefully can overcome this in time).

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#1093000 21-Jul-2014 13:53

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dafman: Personally, I'd prefer to see Cunliffe take an extended holiday. Come back Shearer, all is forgiven!

I agree Cunliffe was a bad choice as leader. I didn't mind Goff as a leader, my problem was he was opposing for opposings sakes. I am not a Labour supporter but I was keen for him to take the reigns from Clark, had conversed with him a few times. The issue was when he took power, he did nothing of value with it.

Problem is that Goff didn't resonate with voters. Shearer kept stumbling and looked like he was really struggling, but presents a lot better now that the pressure of leadership is off him. I think he would be a very good leader to go up against Key, they just chose him too soon. Grant Robertson is likely to step into the mess Cunliffe leaves behind. He's the best speaker, and quickest on his feet, but not too popular with the homophobes in the provinces (but hopefully can overcome this in time).

That may be true but they need to find some policies that appeal to voters, the last lot of stuff they have tried to launch is just bizzare (female mp ratios etc say what?).

They are not communicating effectively either and it doesn't help they are involved in as many scandals as they are.

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#1093006 21-Jul-2014 14:02

I am not a Cunliffe supporter but I see no issue with him taking a few days out to be with family. in a couple of weeks time his family will not see him until the election is over.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1093007 21-Jul-2014 14:02

Their problem I think, is that deep down, they know they wouldn't have done much different to what National has done for the last 6 years - the country came through the GFC relatively unscathed, and the credit rating it heading back in the right direction. Spending was not cut drastically. What have they got to offer that the proven team hasn't?

A likely messy coalition with the Greens, Winston, the Maori Party, Mana (and DotComs lackies) and whoever else they can pull in is not (to me anyway) an enticing prospect.

As mentioned above, Labour are opposing for opposing's sake, and most people can see right through it. Of course, there are the ones who believe Key eats babies who will never change (as there are National voters who would never believe anything of value could come form Labour).

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#1093011 21-Jul-2014 14:05

KiwiNZ: I am not a Cunliffe supporter but I see no issue with him taking a few days out to be with family. in a couple of weeks time his family will not see him until the election is over.

After which they should see plenty of him :)

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#1093048 21-Jul-2014 14:33

Holidays are essential to a balanced life so this would not bother me one bit. Neither does Key's current 10 day holiday at his place in Hawaii for that matter. Come to think of it, Key has stated many times this election will be close.

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#1093050 21-Jul-2014 14:35

I am a fan neither Cunliffe or Key, but I can't see any issue with either taking a holiday. We all need a recharge from time to time, and I think it makes sense to recharge now before all the real election campaigning kicks off so you can go in with all your energy

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#1093051 21-Jul-2014 14:35

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KiwiNZ: I am not a Cunliffe supporter but I see no issue with him taking a few days out to be with family. in a couple of weeks time his family will not see him until the election is over.

After which they should see plenty of him :)

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Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1093054 21-Jul-2014 14:41

gzt: Holidays are essential to a balanced life so this would not bother me one bit. Neither does Key's current 10 day holiday at his place in Hawaii for that matter. Come to think of it, Key has stated many times this election will be close.

The AB's say that when they play Albania too :)

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#1093058 21-Jul-2014 14:42

networkn:

I agree Cunliffe was a bad choice as leader. I didn't mind Goff as a leader, my problem was he was opposing for opposings sakes. I am not a Labour supporter but I was keen for him to take the reigns from Clark, had conversed with him a few times. The issue was when he took power, he did nothing of value with it.

IMHO Goff and Shearer were both far better people and I'd be happy to have either my Prime Minister. I can't say the same for Cunliffe.

The problem however is that leader of a party is an incredibly difficult job involving managing egos and haters.

I don't see any problem with him taking a 2 day holiday - to me is really just shows how much turmoil the party are in when those who appose him run to the media to try and discredit him.

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#1093061 21-Jul-2014 14:45

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networkn:

I agree Cunliffe was a bad choice as leader. I didn't mind Goff as a leader, my problem was he was opposing for opposings sakes. I am not a Labour supporter but I was keen for him to take the reigns from Clark, had conversed with him a few times. The issue was when he took power, he did nothing of value with it.

IMHO Goff and Shearer were both far better people and I'd be happy to have either my Prime Minister. I can't say the same for Cunliffe.

The problem however is that leader of a party is an incredibly difficult job involving managing egos and haters.

I don't see any problem with him taking a 2 day holiday - to me is really just shows how much turmoil the party are in when those who appose him run to the media to try and discredit him.

personally I have no idea why any sane person would do their job

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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