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Topic # 150635 28-Jul-2014 23:21
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Hi There!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11299702

I would agree with the sentiment expressed here (I am actually not a coffee drinker but a hot chocolate drinker) but I'd say where you find good HC you will usually find decent Coffee and vica versa. 

My favourite places to get a HC in Auckland is actually the Mobil on Dominion Road and it's relatively inexpensive compared to specialist places charging $5 for a HC. Outrageous.

Also what is with places not having Marshmellows? Chocolate Biscuits or a pineapple lump, it's just bizzare. At the very least offer both! I wouldn't be a regular anywhere that didn't do them!

 

Incidentally I consider Starbucks to have the worst HC's I have had.

Anyone care to comment on great places for Coffee or HC's or for that matter any other hot drinks?

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  Reply # 1097591 29-Jul-2014 04:45
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I am picking those results are just due to numbers of people who frequent each place.

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  Reply # 1097598 29-Jul-2014 06:35
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BP make a good Mocha I buy at least 3 a week from them

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  Reply # 1097612 29-Jul-2014 07:26
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Are the beans used by Wildbean still sourced from Robert Harris?   I think their secret to making consistant good coffee is due to the automated machines and from what I see….the only human factor where taste could be comprimised would be in the method of milk frothing and measuring. 


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  Reply # 1097618 29-Jul-2014 07:39
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I think any survey trying to pick the best coffee is difficult - simply because people have different taste. It's a bit like trying to pick the best beer.

It's amazing how people can have such different views of the coffee and venues. I don't see how that can really be judged.


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  Reply # 1097622 29-Jul-2014 07:52
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I travel a lot, and while not the absolute best, BP's offering is right up there.  Best of all it is generally a consistent standard.  BP Cambridge is a definite travel stop for me.  






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scuwp: I travel a lot, and while not the absolute best, BP's offering is right up there.  Best of all it is generally a consistent standard.  BP Cambridge is a definite travel stop for me.  



Next time stop back a few km towards Hamilton and visit Red Cherry Café. You will not want to have coffee at BP again. I do agree though that BP Wild Bean coffee is "drinkable". I will very occasionally have one of these as a last resort, but has yet to total more than one hand count. My first cup from them years ago was not good, so they have improved.






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  Reply # 1097720 29-Jul-2014 10:09
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To be fair, the places they were up against weren't exactly top notch. Coffee Club in particular I've always found disappointing. If I had to choose between the places named in that article, Wild Bean would come out on top as well, but that doesn't make it my preferred place to buy coffee. A lot of non-franchise cafes that specialise in coffee do a much better job, you just have to find them and weed them out from the crap places first, and that's the barrier to most people

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Reply # 1097741 29-Jul-2014 10:37
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I am also an HC drinker 20/1. Getting a good one is very difficult. Most are way too much sugar and very little cocoa. There is also a formula using a chocolate syrup which is sometimes better sometimes worse. I think it is fair to expect a lot more quality for the price. The situation is not good. I have almost started a thread about it several times ; ).

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Used to be a great little shop called Bump on Kent St in Newmarket, but it closed a while ago. Was owned by this dude who made some spectacular coffee and had great filter blends, stuff I haven't been able to find anywhere else in Auckland.

Wouldn't touch a coffee made from the Coffee Club with a 10ft pole though. Watery mess.




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Flickky: Used to be a great little shop called Bump on Kent St in Newmarket, but it closed a while ago. Was owned by this dude who made some spectacular coffee and had great filter blends, stuff I haven't been able to find anywhere else in Auckland.

Wouldn't touch a coffee made from the Coffee Club with a 10ft pole though. Watery mess.


I have been 3-4 times for various reasons and I wouldn't return now by choice. Even the food is rubbish and when I tried to provide feedback about the quality vs price via the website, was mocked and told perhaps I should find a place more suited to my financial position (Not in as many words). 


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I threw up in my mouth a bit when I first read the headline. 

But then I read the article and it made a lot more sense. 

The sort of person that rates a service station coffee as "top" is the sort of person who is willing to BUY coffee from a place like BP. In other words, they don't CARE about actual taste/ The quality of the extraction, the flavour of the beans, etc. If they have milk in their drink, they don't care how well steamed it is. In other words, they don't WANT a professional grade coffee. So it was stupid to have the NZ Barista champion do a taste test. 

With respect to that taste test, they got the NZ BARISTA CHAMPION to taste test coffee in the form of a long black. WTF? So it's not even a valid test then is it? Take a proper coffee (i.e. short black/espresso) and ADD A BIT OF WATER. Now get someone to taste it. Totally pointless test. 

She's a champion barista, so the least they could have done was made it a comparison of the actual work done by the barista.


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Flickky: Used to be a great little shop called Bump on Kent St in Newmarket, but it closed a while ago. Was owned by this dude who made some spectacular coffee and had great filter blends, stuff I haven't been able to find anywhere else in Auckland.


Try Ben on Fort St. -

http://www.coffeesecrets.co.nz/cafes/ben-cafe-auckland
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  Reply # 1097775 29-Jul-2014 10:56
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Is Jacksters on Hobson Street still going? Best drop I've ever had in a paper cup.






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markl: I threw up in my mouth a bit when I first read the headline. 

But then I read the article and it made a lot more sense. 

The sort of person that rates a service station coffee as "top" is the sort of person who is willing to BUY coffee from a place like BP. In other words, they don't CARE about actual taste/ The quality of the extraction, the flavour of the beans, etc. If they have milk in their drink, they don't care how well steamed it is. In other words, they don't WANT a professional grade coffee. So it was stupid to have the NZ Barista champion do a taste test. 

With respect to that taste test, they got the NZ BARISTA CHAMPION to taste test coffee in the form of a long black. WTF? So it's not even a valid test then is it? Take a proper coffee (i.e. short black/espresso) and ADD A BIT OF WATER. Now get someone to taste it. Totally pointless test. 

She's a champion barista, so the least they could have done was made it a comparison of the actual work done by the barista.



Unfortunately, us mere mortals probably don't have the time or inclination to follow such stringent processes in order to find the perfect coffee, please forgive the peasants for not meeting your standards. 



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networkn: 

Unfortunately, us mere mortals probably don't have the time or inclination to follow such stringent processes in order to find the perfect coffee, please forgive the peasants for not meeting your standards. 



Did you write the article? Conduct the survey? If not, WHY SO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE??? Noone insulted you so chill out and have another BP "coffee".

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