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#151490 27-Aug-2014 12:58
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Hey guys.

If you haven't heard there is a group called "Lizard Squad" which has DDosed some pretty big sites recently, Sony (PSN), the Vatican and some others. They have now (Allegedly) taken down Twitch. I had 5-10 minutes to kill and thought I would watch some streams but not now.

My question is why do people do this? Just for attention? Do they get paid something or Is it just for notoriety? Why cant they be located based off the tweets they send. Why is it so "easy" to do this and to some pretty big companies also. That doesn't make me feel safe when inputting my bank details online etc.

Its pretty bloody annoying.

And for some people streaming online is their only way of making an income so they are taking that away from them.





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  #1116452 27-Aug-2014 13:05
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Sometimes it is ideological - they want to cause financial loss to large companies that they have some sort of agenda against. Sometimes just for the 'thrill' of doing it, to say they did.

Be aware there is a massive difference between a DDoS attack, and an actual security breach, in terms of security of your information. DDoS is purely a denial of service, not accessing any secure information. Think of it as the difference between having a couple of big blokes stand outside the door of the bank and stop you walking in, as compared to them going inside armed and demanding money.



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  #1116537 27-Aug-2014 14:32
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One day someone will invent something that sneaks back down the line to the hackers and melts their toys...!





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  #1116539 27-Aug-2014 14:34
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these people arent really hackers just script kiddies, anyone with a credit card can make or rent a botnet.







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  #1116543 27-Aug-2014 14:38
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Geektastic: One day someone will invent something that sneaks back down the line to the hackers and melts their toys...!


Yup. Fry all those infected Bot computers!

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  #1116545 27-Aug-2014 14:39
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l43a2: these people arent really hackers just script kiddies, anyone with a credit card can make or rent a botnet.


Can you now? Never heard of that one. What a good idea. Pay using a traceable credit card.

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  #1116548 27-Aug-2014 14:41
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Inphinity: 
Be aware there is a massive difference between a DDoS attack, and an actual security breach, in terms of security of your information. DDoS is purely a denial of service, not accessing any secure information.


True, though DDoS attacks can be used to mask or screen more nefarious undertakings.


In this case though, I suspect this is pretty much the case:

l43a2: these people arent really hackers just script kiddies, anyone with a credit card can make or rent a botnet.




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  #1116551 27-Aug-2014 14:44
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  #1116627 27-Aug-2014 15:53
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Yeah given the targets it is just a bunch of a**holes doing what they do, being a**holes.

They hit battle.net pretty hard last weekend too - 40 minute wait times for hearthstone and d3.

sigh...


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  #1116629 27-Aug-2014 15:55
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well you could use a prepaid visa card TimA :P probably shouldn't really have this convo may give people ideas.





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  #1116633 27-Aug-2014 16:00
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Script kiddies thinking they are hard with their paid botnets or simple tools are becoming more and more common.

its disappointing to see.


Every gaming community i take part in, has had their run with it..


Think back a few years ago, it was WAY less common...




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  #1116647 27-Aug-2014 16:15
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hio77: Script kiddies thinking they are hard with their paid botnets or simple tools are becoming more and more common.

its disappointing to see.


Every gaming community i take part in, has had their run with it..


Think back a few years ago, it was WAY less common...


Yeah, before minecraft existed.

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  #1117732 29-Aug-2014 09:11
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For the lulz.. always for the lulz.






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