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Topic # 161984 26-Jan-2015 09:59
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My sister, Tracey Patient, was murdered in Henderson, NZ, in January 1976. She was 13 years old. The police have not caught her murderer. I have been contacted several times over the years, by well-meaning people who have had various theories about who may have murdered Tracey; many came via this site and I am grateful to every person who has contacted me. One lady even turned up at my house; she came all the way from NZ to speak to me.

When I heard last year that a reward was being offered in the Jane Furlong case, I emailed Peter Marshall to ask if a reward could also be considered for Tracey's case. I was told that Tracey's case did not meet the criteria for a reward; when I asked what the criteria was, I didn't receive a reply.

I am asking for your support in lobbying Peter Marshall, to ask for a reward to be offered in Tracey's case. If enough people contact him, the police might listen. Someone knows who murdered Tracey. Perhaps they need an incentive to make them talk.

Yesterday I sent my annual email to Peter Marshall, John Key and everyone else I can think of in the police and NZ government. The only person who has replied so far is Andrew Little's PA.

I will do everything I can to keep Tracey's case in the public eye. I appreciate any support or advice that you can offer me.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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  Reply # 1222261 26-Jan-2015 10:05
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Have just found out that Mike Bush is the current police commissioner. I need to forward my email to him now :)

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  Reply # 1222269 26-Jan-2015 10:38
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Previous thread to update people on this.

Article from NZ Herald

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  Reply # 1222359 26-Jan-2015 13:09
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Debiarbi: 
I will do everything I can to keep Tracey's case in the public eye. I appreciate any support or advice that you can offer me.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.


Have you contacted media outlets recently as well?  I'd be seeing if Campbell Live or any of those types of programs would run a segment on the case.  It's really hard to argue that "it doesn't meet criteria" when you have John Campbell in your face asking "why not?  Is this not just as important?"

Best of luck in your crusade.  I truly hope that the person responsible can be brought to justice.  Depraved individuals like that should not be loose in society.

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  Reply # 1222675 26-Jan-2015 19:27
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Sorry to hear about your situation.

I thought I would offer one small suggestion which might be of some small help. Given what you have written, I suggest making a request to the Minister of Police, pursuant to the Official Information Act (which you should explicitly refer to in your request), asking for:

1.  the general criteria that the Police use when deciding to offer a reward

2.  the reasons why the Police decided not to offer a reward in the case of your sister; and

3.  copies of all emails, internal memoranda, file notes, reports, minutes of meetings, and any other documentation relevant to the decision not to offer a reward in your sister's case.

Keep the request clinical, business like, and scrupulously formal polite. Make it to the Minister not the Commissioner - while it will still be transferred it will be logged etc first, so they more or less have to handle it by the book. Both of these are essential to maximise your chance of a serious answer. If you aren't satisfied with the response, ask the Ombudsman to review how they handled the request.

While it won't force a re-opening of the case, it should at least give you the information viz., the decision not to offer a reward that you have been seeking.

I wish you luck.

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  Reply # 1222800 26-Jan-2015 21:47
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Unfortunately, the Official Information Act will not help you in this case.  You are actually required to be in New Zealand to make a request as per Part 2, Section 12 of the act.  While someone in NZ could request the information on your behalf, the police may then apply the Privacy Act which could potentially result in the response being non-discloseable.

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  Reply # 1222840 26-Jan-2015 22:26
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Kyanar: While someone in NZ could request the information on your behalf, the police may then apply the Privacy Act which could potentially result in the response being non-discloseable.

A nominated (in writing) agent of Debiarbi (such as a lawyer) can make such a request without having any worry around privacy laws.

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  Reply # 1222876 26-Jan-2015 23:26
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Dratsab:

Kyanar: While someone in NZ could request the information on your behalf, the police may then apply the Privacy Act which could potentially result in the response being non-discloseable.



A nominated (in writing) agent of Debiarbi (such as a lawyer) can make such a request without having any worry around privacy laws.


I forgot that bit - it's been a long time since I have had anything to do with that Act. Dratsab is correct - get an agent (a lawyer or an interested journalist would be good) to make the request. Consider giving them a letter to say the family consents to the request, which they can attach, to reduce the risk of them sheltering behind spurious privacy grounds to decline it..

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  Reply # 1223004 27-Jan-2015 09:37
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Can you update your Post with the contact details of the ppl you want us to send emails/call?


If it was me personally, in addition to what you are doing now with the commissioners etc, i would try to create more public attention on it, looking on google, most hits are many years old

This is what i would do anyway

I would create a website, post all the facts on your sisters case, photos,  your correspondence with police etc, everything you know, and try and get as many ppl as you can on facebook/reddit/imgur/twitter etc etc so promote it, do whatever you can to raise the profile of this in the public eye.










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  Reply # 1223710 28-Jan-2015 05:00
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions and advice; I really appreciate you taking the time to get in touch, and you have given me plenty to think about. Re lobbying, I have emailed Mike Bush, Michael Woodhouse and Superintendent Bill Searle (District Commander of Waitemata Police) to ask if they will reconsider the decision made by Peter Marshall not to offer a reward.

 

Bill Searle has replied to say he will make some investigations and get someone to contact me, and I have received an email of acknowledgment from Michael Woodhouse’s PA. I received an out of office reply from Deborah Keeys, who is Mike Bush’s Executive Assistant. She will be back from leave tomorrow (28th). Their email addresses are:

 

Deborah.Keeyes@police.govt.nz, M.Woodhouse@parliament.govt.nz, William.searle2@police.govt.nz,

 

I also emailed John Key, but haven’t heard back from his office. (Andrew Little’s office has replied, to say they will pass my email on to Andrew).

 

I have posted info on my wall on facebook, and asked my friends in NZ and Australia to share the post. They all have. A website is a really good idea too. I’m not very good at that sort of thing but I’m going to have a go at setting one up.

 

 

 

I contacted the Western Leader on Sunday, to ask if they would be interested in running a story about Tracey’s case. The editor has replied to say they are, so I will be emailing her again later today.

 

I have placed an ‘ad’ for Tracey in the ‘in memoriam’ section of the NZ Herald; it will be in Thursday’s paper (Thursday 29th is the 39th anniversary of Tracey’s death). I have included the phone number of NZ Crimestoppers, in case anyone’s memory / conscience is jogged by it. I know I have to try to get Tracey’s case as high a profile as possible and I will definitely take on board all your suggestions and advice.

Thanks again to you all. If anyone has any other suggestions of how to raise the profile of Tracey’s case, please let me know- all suggestions are welcome!

 

Debbie

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  Reply # 1224824 29-Jan-2015 17:20
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I saw the notice in the paper today , I was living in Henderson at the time Tracey was murdered. (same age) It seems odd this case has never been closed yet no reward has been posted. I too will email the persons and departments you mentioned. On the subject of the numbers the mystery caller left, I assume the numbers were tested on a public telephone, in the old days of dial phones we used to "tap" the hook in the old phone boxes to replicate the pulses generated from using the dial,that way you could call for free,  because the NZ phones were back to front i.e. the 0 and the 9 were at the wrong end of the dial from memory you subtracted the number you wanted
1 tap = number 9 and 9 taps = 0 etc. so on that would make 126040 = 875 979 (I think) It was a long time ago but we used to write down the number of taps before trying to make a free call because you had to time the taps carefully for it to work. Just a hunch but the 6 figure number beginning with 8 was used from New lynn to Morningside in the late 1970's.





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  Reply # 1225037 30-Jan-2015 00:05
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Thanks Ex Westie, I appreciate your support. I haven't heard anything else from the police yet (other than the email from Bill Searle), not even an acknowledgement that they have received my email.

It would be great if you could email the police to give them that info about the phones, if you are happy to do that. I'd forgotten that we could do that back then. The person to email would be Kevin.Hooper@police.govt.nz. Thank you.

The Western Leader are running a story about Tracey's case tomorrow (30th).

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