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#164424 9-Feb-2015 13:43
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The frequency has dropped off since guy fawkes but still the neighbours are letting the things off from time to time. 

The most recent occurrence was last Friday morning at 4.00am. 

All for a ban. 



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  #1233407 9-Feb-2015 13:52
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A law change is not required; it's already illegal under the Resource Management Act to generate excessive noise (especially in the middle of the night). If it happens again then it might be worth a call to noise control.



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  #1233426 9-Feb-2015 14:21
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Different city has different bylaws on how to deal with this.

FYI, in CHC, the Police can't do anything if the fireworks is at private property. The council's bylaws can under effect if it is excessive noise.

We have had this issue before and called Police, they can't do anything, called noise control and they replied it has to be excessive. If the animals were frightened, it is not enough jurisdiction for noise control to come out.

It's very frustrating and feel like the us (the nearby neighbours) being victimised by the noisemakers, and there isn't any law to ban fireworks in private property yet.

The law is getting reviewed.




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  #1233430 9-Feb-2015 14:26
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Gotta say, I agree with a ban. Someone in our neighbourhood was letting them off on Friday - really loud ones too. At elast once a week, they are letting them off, and if it is not them, then there is someone else (sometimes both).

I have no issues with them on Guy Fawkes/New Years, but to carry on for what is now three months after they went on sale for 3 days is a bit excessive.

As usual, the actions of a tiny minority are ruining it for the majority. The easiest way to police it unfortunately is to ban the sale to the public (policing individual events is too hard/too expensive).



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  #1233433 9-Feb-2015 14:29
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As above. Also, by the time Noise Control got there chances are it would probably be all over. More often then not it's just a short burst to annoy everyone and would be all over and done with before Noise Control could even answer the phone!




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  #1233435 9-Feb-2015 14:30
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chiefie: Different city has different bylaws on how to deal with this.

Ahh, I didn't realise that.

I'm not in favour of a ban myself; it's still fun to let off fireworks once a year and with no public displays in my town anymore (they accidentally set the place on fire a few years ago!) it'd be something that I miss.

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  #1233437 9-Feb-2015 14:35
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Still getting occasional ones being let off around us, thankfully its only one or two and thats it, all before 10pm.






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  #1233464 9-Feb-2015 14:51
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Utterly opposed to petty nanny state bans like this, still think it's a crock we are so limited in our access to and use of fireworks. Bring back sky rockets, double happy's, and all the fun stuff, and let people purchase and use them year round.







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  #1233474 9-Feb-2015 15:00
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I am in favour of a ban for private purchasing and use of fireworks. We are still getting being let off and all hours of the night.




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  #1233475 9-Feb-2015 15:02
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Behodar: A law change is not required; it's already illegal under the Resource Management Act to generate excessive noise (especially in the middle of the night). If it happens again then it might be worth a call to noise control.


Noise control say to wait one hour, call again,  then they will come and check the noise. 

It is unenforceable.   


Meanwhile, we keep getting fireworks noise. 


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  #1233480 9-Feb-2015 15:04
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i just dont understand how they can afford to buy that many fireworks

we have a family about 3 houses down they still let them off occasionally. but they are hardly in a position to be able to afford the amount they buy going off their current housing situation/social socioeconomically status

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  #1233482 9-Feb-2015 15:10
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Advice recieved recently from the Fire Service (while discussing this issue) is that if there is a total fire ban in place for an area than the Police can act under the guise of the Fire ban (action depends on issuing authority and legislation used however). I know that on the West Coast for instance that the Police can currently act on Fireworks being let off at anytime of the day. Obviously considering the nature of the offence and the work load for the Police getting attendance may be another story.

 
 
 
 

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  #1233511 9-Feb-2015 15:50
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Lias: Utterly opposed to petty nanny state bans like this, still think it's a crock we are so limited in our access to and use of fireworks. Bring back sky rockets, double happy's, and all the fun stuff, and let people purchase and use them year round.





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  #1233512 9-Feb-2015 15:50
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Jase2985: i just dont understand how they can afford to buy that many fireworks

we have a family about 3 houses down they still let them off occasionally. but they are hardly in a position to be able to afford the amount they buy going off their current housing situation/social socioeconomically status


People can afford what they want to afford.

I can't afford tyres let alone a car, but I've put 4 brand new ones on my old car and buying a new one tonight.  Many families with 3 or more children can't afford food, but you will still catch the parents smoking a pack a day while they sip on supermarket wine.  Sad really. 

Luckily, no kids and no stupid habits means I can safely push the money boundaries a bit.

As for fireworks...A ban isn't going to do anything for at least a year or two.  Some people have them stockpiled so high they could use the gunpowder in a civil war.  That and it's already illegal to let them off now.

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  #1233538 9-Feb-2015 16:07
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Behodar: A law change is not required; it's already illegal under the Resource Management Act to generate excessive noise (especially in the middle of the night). If it happens again then it might be worth a call to noise control.


In Wellington at least, noise control will take your details and call you back in 30 mins. Only then, IF the noise is ongoing, will they act. Useless for outbursts from inconsiderate idiots. 

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  #1233539 9-Feb-2015 16:07
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We have a nieghbour that does it weekly and usally they aim fireworks at houses or just place the bigger ones on the road. We phone the police and all they did was take down the details and said they would have a chat. But nothing happened it is amazing how much they must have each time it must b $40 box worth. 





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