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#171384 15-Apr-2015 22:18
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I hate franchises. I really do. I hate all of them but especially I hate the supermarkets. Why? Because every time I complain about anything, and I really don’t do it very often, I am told it is the fault of Head Office. If a favourite item is no longer being stocked, and this has happened to me several times, it is because a mandate has come down from Head Office. If a new, particularly stupid or irritating policy has been implemented, like the idiotic (though short-lived) Countdown decision to refuse to sell alcohol to anyone in the company of children, it is a Head Office decision. If most of the checkout counters are not being staffed, in spite of long customer queues, it is Head Office that has decided not to allow additional hiring. It is always the fault of Head Office. What a convenient cop-out for the local store. It cannot be held accountable for anything. Head Office has made the decision. Isn’t this a load of crap?

Invariably, Head Office is located in Auckland, though more often than not, controlled from overseas. Yet my local business, the one I deal with and spend money at, is not in Auckland; it is where I live. This is where local people buy their groceries, or tyres, or pizzas, or whatever. It has nothing to do with Auckland. Yet distant strangers in Auckland are making decisions about what we are allowed to buy, or how we are allowed to buy it. Why is this so?

Head Office will not permit my local Countdown to hire more personnel to staff the empty checkout counters. Well why the hell not? My own suspicion is that they are trying to force people to use the self-service checkouts. No doubt some genius in Australia has decided that profits can be increased if customers can be made to do the supermarket’s work for it.

This may seem fine to a bean-counter in Auckland, but what I see is a business sucking money out of my community and refusing to give anything back. If they hire more people, they also create local jobs and return a small share of their profits to the local community. Why is that such a terrible idea?

What really bothers me, though, is not being able to find products I like because Head Office has decreed they should no longer be stocked. Pak ‘n Save did this with a particular brand of organic milk (apparently they were not willing to pay a sufficiently large kickback), as well as the one single brand of sugar-free confectionary available (out of hundreds of brands containing sugar), and even Charlie’s orange juice. So I switched to Countdown (not much choice, but at least a little), and ran into the issues of unending queues and truly stupid alcohol regulations (not to mention the fact that they insist on signalling a supervisor with a very loud bell every time you buy grog or tobacco, thus announcing to the entire store that you are in the process of making a sinful purchase). As with their One Card, they do not have much regard for individual privacy.

I am really fed up with hearing about Head Office. I want the businesses I do business with to be accountable to the communities they do business in. If my local store is not willing to create jobs to improve service, or stock the items customers request, or do things the way customers want, then I want to be able to sit down with the manager of that local store and ask why. I want to be able to demand accountability. I am sick of being fobbed off with ‘Head Office has told us to do it this way’. That is not an answer.

Franchises exist because they can charge less through ‘economies of scale’ (i.e., muscling suppliers to sell at a loss, mafia-style) and because they are able to establish ‘brand recognition’ (though why identical orange-coloured premises with plastic fittings are an asset I do not understand). Why people see this as a good thing, or want to do business with companies that manipulate and exploit them, I also do not understand, and that is what this rant is about. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

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  #1285171 15-Apr-2015 22:24
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I am not sure you understand what the word "franchise" means. Progressive Enterprises isn't a franchise. And no offence, very few businesses -- big, medium or small -- will send out a manager to engage in some long-winded discussion with you on why they don't stock your favourite item, in order for you to "demand accountability".





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  #1285183 15-Apr-2015 22:33
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Sometimes they can be a pain.

We had some windows from a well known NZ window company and the local branch, despite trading in all respects as the main company, turned out to be a franchise.

When we later had some problems and asked them to rectify they simply said that the business had been sold and announced that faults of the old business were not their problem. Given that both businesses were trading under the same name and supplying the same products we felt a bit aggrieved by that to be honest.

As regards supermarkets, the management of them just isn't that good I am afraid. I am constantly finding holes in the shelves where restocking is not being done, almost as if they do it once a day and that is it. You can rarely find a handy staff member to ask and usually they have no idea how to rectify the matter - I don't get the impression that they get much training. A recent example - nothing but a big hole where my favourite coffee should have been. Eventually found a staff member whose response was "Oh. Right." and then walked off!

It all seems a bit "She'll be right" if I am honest, but I suspect that a lack of competition is at least partly responsible for that.





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  #1285204 15-Apr-2015 22:38
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dejadeadnz: I am not sure you understand what the word "franchise" means. Progressive Enterprises isn't a franchise. And no offence, very few businesses -- big, medium or small -- will send out a manager to engage in some long-winded discussion with you on why they don't stock your favourite item, in order for you to "demand accountability".




Yes, ok, strictly speaking you are right. But a business that has different branches in different places all operating under the same company brand is essentially the same as a franchise (theoretically privately-owned but still controlled by the franchise licensor). And no offense taken but I still maintain that a local business should be accountable in the first instance to the local community, as opposed to a distant master. The things I am complaining about are real, whether you agree with them or not.






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  #1285255 16-Apr-2015 00:35

The shop staff are not paid enough to care. Just take your business elsewhere. Should be lots of other shops that sell Charlies juices.





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#1285256 16-Apr-2015 00:47
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Rikkitic: As with their One Card, they do not have much regard for individual privacy.


Just don't use OneCard and pay cash. At least this problem is solved.




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  #1285257 16-Apr-2015 00:50
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I share your dislike for franchises. Basically the way I see it, they have their cake and eat it too. The franchises trade on the good name of the parent, and all the flashy branding, but at the end of the day, you are dealing with a small business that gives the illusion of being something much greater than they are. It seems that in NZ, the big goal for any business is to turn it into a franchise, which is really where the money is, as it is a bit of a license to print money when you get into that situation. Franchise owners also often get a very hard time from the parent, from what I have seen. I also don't think they are great for consumers, and this is why I try not to deal with them, although that is often difficult, due to how many there are these days in so many fields.

 
 
 

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  #1285262 16-Apr-2015 06:37
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Geektastic: You can rarely find a handy staff member to ask and usually they have no idea how to rectify the matter - I don't get the impression that they get much training. A recent example - nothing but a big hole where my favourite coffee should have been. Eventually found a staff member whose response was "Oh. Right." and then walked off!


This is what you get when you pay minimum wages... there's no incentive to do your job well. The job is looked at as a fill-in until you can get a decent job.

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  #1285267 16-Apr-2015 06:59
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Geektastic: Sometimes they can be a pain.

We had some windows from a well known NZ window company and the local branch, despite trading in all respects as the main company, turned out to be a franchise.

When we later had some problems and asked them to rectify they simply said that the business had been sold and announced that faults of the old business were not their problem. Given that both businesses were trading under the same name and supplying the same products we felt a bit aggrieved by that to be honest.

As regards supermarkets, the management of them just isn't that good I am afraid. I am constantly finding holes in the shelves where restocking is not being done, almost as if they do it once a day and that is it. You can rarely find a handy staff member to ask and usually they have no idea how to rectify the matter - I don't get the impression that they get much training. A recent example - nothing but a big hole where my favourite coffee should have been. Eventually found a staff member whose response was "Oh. Right." and then walked off!

It all seems a bit "She'll be right" if I am honest, but I suspect that a lack of competition is at least partly responsible for that.


Restocking is generally done at times when customer numbers are low e.g late in the evening as customers don't want large stock trolleys etc in the aisles when they are shopping. It also makes sense for safety reasons. Trying to negotiate aisles the large stock trolleys in a wheelchair is a real pain for example.

If something is not on the shelf I go to the customer service counter and they get it for me and with a smile.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.


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  #1285333 16-Apr-2015 09:14
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We once purchased a DVD recorder form DSE in Warkworth.  Everything was fine until it blew up the next day.

We wanted a replacement.  "DSE" turned on us and said "Oh, you need to go to a DSE branch in Auckland for that, we are just a franchise".  "We are not DSE, we are Tronix Electrical" or whatever their name is now.

We spent about 15 minutes arguing with them and eventually got our way, but it was as if they were trained to say that line and taught it was a good idea to travel 100KM to a branch you've never been to in order to replace an item you purchased from somewhere else. 

It became a battle of legal words, reminding them of their obligations when all I wanted to do was set it up to record House M.D on the nights I wasn't home :(

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  #1285335 16-Apr-2015 09:14
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freitasm:
Rikkitic: As with their One Card, they do not have much regard for individual privacy.


Just don't use OneCard and pay cash. At least this problem is solved.


I don't, and I do. I was just using this as an example.




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DravidDavid: We once purchased a DVD recorder form DSE in Warkworth.  Everything was fine until it blew up the next day.

We wanted a replacement.  "DSE" turned on us and said "Oh, you need to go to a DSE branch in Auckland for that, we are just a franchise".  "We are not DSE, we are Tronix Electrical" or whatever their name is now.

We spent about 15 minutes arguing with them and eventually got our way, but it was as if they were trained to say that line and taught it was a good idea to travel 100KM to a branch you've never been to in order to replace an item you purchased from somewhere else. 

It became a battle of legal words, reminding them of their obligations when all I wanted to do was set it up to record House M.D on the nights I wasn't home :(


I hate having to do that, thankfully not that often.




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[Moderator edit (MF): fixed company name as per FUG]

Apologies to moderator. I have actually read the FUG, more than once, but I was trying to make a point with sarcasm and forgot the rule. I tend to get carried away when I am being emotional. I will try harder to remember this in the future.





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frankv:
Geektastic: You can rarely find a handy staff member to ask and usually they have no idea how to rectify the matter - I don't get the impression that they get much training. A recent example - nothing but a big hole where my favourite coffee should have been. Eventually found a staff member whose response was "Oh. Right." and then walked off!


This is what you get when you pay minimum wages... there's no incentive to do your job well. The job is looked at as a fill-in until you can get a decent job.



Less about wages and more about the crap attitude of our young adults and much of our early 20s age group today. The incentive to do your job well is to gain experience, good references so you can get the next higher paying job..but dont expect it to be right away.


Ive worked in alot of industries (inc retail sales) since 1993 and can tell you that me and most of the people back then did a good job and enjoyed our work, even on wages as low as $4.32 to $8 an hour working in a supermarket.

 


Young ones working in supermarkets today complain at $16 an hour. Pffft let me get the violins out.


Specifically on retail sales, I was getting $8.65 per hour working at Farmers from 1997-1998 selling audio, home appliance and whiteware, and I treated it like a top sales job, pushing sales targets, providing best service, working 12 hour shifts on card holders nights...no complaint. I did that for 2 years before landing my first IT Job (IT ServiceDesk) which paid a stunning $11.50 per hour.

Did that for a further 2 years and landed the next IT job (Intranet Admin) $15.38 per hour.


And people complain about being on $16 an hour for their first job !!!!. Get a reality check I say. 


All along the way I made small increments by gaining experience, up-skilling, putting in 10 years with one company, living quite comfortable now and i'm not even 40 yet.












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heylinb4nz:
frankv:
Geektastic: You can rarely find a handy staff member to ask and usually they have no idea how to rectify the matter - I don't get the impression that they get much training. A recent example - nothing but a big hole where my favourite coffee should have been. Eventually found a staff member whose response was "Oh. Right." and then walked off!


This is what you get when you pay minimum wages... there's no incentive to do your job well. The job is looked at as a fill-in until you can get a decent job.



Less about wages and more about the crap attitude of our young adults and much of our early 20s age group today. The incentive to do your job well is to gain experience, good references so you can get the next higher paying job..but dont expect it to be right away.


Ive worked in alot of industries (inc retail sales) since 1993 and can tell you that me and most of the people back then did a good job and enjoyed our work, even on wages as low as $4.32 to $8 an hour working in a supermarket.
Young ones working in supermarkets today complain at $16 an hour. Pffft let me get the violins out.


Specifically on retail sales, I was getting $8.65 per hour working at Farmers from 1997-1998 selling audio, home appliance and whiteware, and I treated it like a top sales job, pushing sales targets, providing best service, working 12 hour shifts on card holders nights...no complaint. I did that for 2 years before landing my first IT Job (IT ServiceDesk) which paid a stunning $11.50 per hour.

Did that for a further 2 years and landed the next IT job (Intranet Admin) $15.38 per hour.


And people complain about being on $16 an hour for their first job !!!!. Get a reality check I say. 


All along the way I made small increments by gaining experience, up-skilling, putting in 10 years with one company, living quite comfortable now and i'm not even 40 yet.


inflation comes into it.   most teenagers wont see it as a stepping stone to a better job, they will see it as a way to get some money each week.  A lot will go onto university etc and won't even put their after school jobs on their CV.

I have no problems with the fact the 16 year old checkout operator doesn't give a crap to be there, I prefer the ones that dont talk to you, they're usually a lot quicker.

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  #1285403 16-Apr-2015 10:21
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Between 1993 and 1998, money would have been worth more though, wouldn't it?  The wage has risen with the cost of living.

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