Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

gzt



10023 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


Topic # 192108 27-Feb-2016 11:08
Send private message

The EFF says NZ made a one word change to the overall TPP which will increase the application of penalties including imprisonment:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/sneaky-change-tpp-drastically-extends-criminal-penalties

Before:

With regard to copyright and related rights piracy provided for under paragraph 1, a Party may limit application of this paragraph to the cases in which there is an impact on the right holder’s ability to exploit the work, performance or phonogram in the market.

After:

With regard to copyright and related rights piracy provided for under paragraph 1, a Party may limit application of this subparagraph to the cases in which there is an impact on the right holder’s ability to exploit the work, performance or phonogram in the market.


EFF: As of the date of writing, the text excerpted at the top of this page is still the version of the text found on the United States Trade Representative (USTR) website. However on January 26, a slightly different version was uploaded to the website of the official host of the agreement, New Zealand.


Anyway, the EFF article does not explain if this change has any legal effect or which version was actually signed, or if it means that a different version will be ratified later down the track. There has been talk of amendments etc so I guess it is plausible.

Either way I do not recall penalties being discussed here before, so I'm curious to know if in the TPP NZ will implement new copyright penalties in general.

I would prefer to avoid making this a movie/music filesharing discussion. Imo the effect on the arts and manufacturing is more general.

Create new topic
268 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 46


  Reply # 1500314 27-Feb-2016 11:20
Send private message

The topic heading isn't correct - the change wasn't initiated by the New Zealand government, it's just that we started the agreement so host the official copy.

 

Lawyers etc are going over the TPP and cleaning up ambiguities and language - they may have thought they were doing so here but as the article makes clear it actually changes the meaning of the original statement. It's always possible this will be changed again as the EFF have drawn attention to it.


11687 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3783

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1500334 27-Feb-2016 13:00
Send private message

I hope it affects all kinds of copyright and not just that for films or music, which seem to be the only two kinds anyone speaks about these days.






gzt



10023 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1516


  Reply # 1500743 28-Feb-2016 13:28
Send private message

tieke:

The topic heading isn't correct - the change wasn't initiated by the New Zealand government, it's just that we started the agreement so host the official copy.


Ok, that's a good point!

tieke:

Lawyers etc are going over the TPP and cleaning up ambiguities and language - they may have thought they were doing so here but as the article makes clear it actually changes the meaning of the original statement. It's always possible this will be changed again as the EFF have drawn attention to it.


It's an interesting process. Imo it indicates there may still be some horse trading continuing behind the scenes.

I think it says something that we really have no clue which way this item could go. I agree and hopefully it will be changed.

I do not want to see a situation where someone ends up in jail for creating a parody video or some other artisitic expression. In either case I suspect our freedom of speech needs strengthening a bit.

798 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 355


  Reply # 1501461 29-Feb-2016 13:13
2 people support this post
Send private message

Geektastic:

 

I hope it affects all kinds of copyright and not just that for films or music, which seem to be the only two kinds anyone speaks about these days.

 

 

Except for Illegally pirated goods, and illegal goods (contraband) ,

 

I can import branded clothes/shoes/jewellery from anywhere in the world

 

I can import books from anywhere in the world

 

I can import DVDs/Bluerays/CDs from anywhere in the world

 

I can import Electronics/Computers/Cameras from anywhere in the world

 

I can import cars from anywhere in the world, so long as they are complaint if I want to drive on the road

 

 

 

So, why can I not import digital goods, ebooks, streaming TV, etc etc etc ?

 

Why do things have to be physically imported than digitally ?, after all this is what resellers have to do, import the physical or the digital goods.

 

 

 

If I buy something, legally, no mater what it is I should be able to import it.

 

I am happy to buy stuff, I am simply not happy to pay the markups some retailers believe they are entitled to.

 

For example, I fitted my whole house out with LED lamps for NZ$6 a hit when lighting stores in NZ were asking $60+ each. And 5 year later they are STILL running.

 

 


Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces new NUC kits and NUC mini PCs
Posted 16-Aug-2018 11:03


The Warehouse leaps into the AI future with Google
Posted 15-Aug-2018 17:56


Targus set sights on enterprise and consumer growth in New Zealand
Posted 13-Aug-2018 13:47


Huawei to distribute nova 3i in New Zealand
Posted 9-Aug-2018 16:23


Home robot Vector to be available in New Zealand stores
Posted 9-Aug-2018 14:47


Panasonic announces new 2018 OLED TV line up
Posted 7-Aug-2018 16:38


Kordia completes first live 4K TV broadcast
Posted 1-Aug-2018 13:00


Schools get safer and smarter internet with Managed Network Upgrade
Posted 30-Jul-2018 20:01


DNC wants a safer .nz in the coming year
Posted 26-Jul-2018 16:08


Auldhouse becomes an AWS Authorised Training Delivery Partner in New Zealand
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:55


Rakuten Kobo launches Kobo Clara HD entry level reader
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:44


Kiwi team reaches semi-finals at the Microsoft Imagine Cup
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:38


KidsCan App to Help Kiwi Children in Need
Posted 26-Jul-2018 15:32


FUJIFILM announces new high-performance lenses
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:57


New FUJIFILM XF10 introduces square mode for Instagram sharing
Posted 24-Jul-2018 14:44



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.